<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 10:26 PM Rob Landley <<a href="mailto:rob@landley.net">rob@landley.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
I assume this was an xfree86 style fork off an existing codebase, so the old<br>
code is still out there under AGPLv3, and the big cloud players who want to do<br>
this can still deploy and develop that version? And that any patches added to<br>
the open source fork could not be used in the new proprietary "you can't deploy<br>
on servers we don't like, you have to pay us instead" SSPL fork?<br>
..<br>It would if the relicensed fork became more popular than the open source one,<br>
but I'm unaware of any historical instances of that actually happening. People<br>
can usually smell a rat. Of course they want OSI's endorsement of their<br>
proprietary fork to cover the smell...<br>..<br>
It didn't explicitly reference similar historical situations like Xfree86-><a href="http://x.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">x.org</a><br>
and mysql->mariadb and ethereal->wireshark and openoffice->libreoffice and so<br>
on, but judging by the comments everybody put 2+2 together pretty quickly.<br><br>
OSI aside, the community seems to have pretty clearly spoken.<br>
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Rob<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Assuming that mongodb continues to invest in improving the mongodb product then the mongoldb fork will win unless Amazon invests a similar amount to support documentdb.</div><div><br></div><div>Given that mongodb is a core product the level of investment will likely remain high. Much higher than community contributions unless Amazon, Microsoft and Google invest in it. Which from MongoDB's perspective is a win...because it partially levels the playing field for Atlas.</div><div><br></div><div>This is where it differs from OpenOffice and Ethereal. None of those saw any significant investment after the fork. mariaDB wouldn't have been competitive without corporate investment and mySQL isn't a make or break product for Oracle so their level of investment is limited. mariaDB doesn't threaten Oracle.</div><div><br></div><div>The community that matters to Oracle and MongoDB is the one that pays for product or investment. Salesforce matters. Ubuntu doesn't. SSPL probably wouldn't bother companies like Salesforce....</div><div><br></div></div></div></div>