<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:medium;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:windowtext">5.1.f is a deal killer for me... <span></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:medium;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:windowtext"><span> </span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:medium;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:windowtext">Essentially it means that every fork must exist in a public repo and it is trivially easy to not be in compliance. For example I be working on something, do a local commit, get busy for a month without doing a push and boom, I’m out of compliance. <span></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:medium;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:windowtext"><span> </span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:medium;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:windowtext">That said I don’t think it fails freedom 0 because of 5.1.f other than being really easy to be out of compliance.<span></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:medium;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:windowtext"><span> </span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font color="#000000"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">In the interest of disclosure I am the (junior) author of the Upstream Compatibility License…there was a discussion of asymmetry at the time of approval. UCL derivative works are dual licensed as Apache and UCL. UCL itself is just OSL with a one line change in 1C. </span></font></font></p></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 12:11 PM Smith, McCoy <<a href="mailto:mccoy.smith@intel.com">mccoy.smith@intel.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="m_5890988098405652828______replyseparator"></a><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:windowtext">>>From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:windowtext"> License-review [mailto:<a href="mailto:license-review-bounces@lists.opensource.org" target="_blank">license-review-bounces@lists.opensource.org</a>]
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<p><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">>></span># THERE IS MORE!<u></u><u></u></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">>></span>Under Section 5.1<u></u><u></u></p>
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<pre><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">>></span>f) You must make available to the public any Derivative Work or changes to the Work within one month from their creation. <u></u><u></u></pre>
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<p><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">>></span>This creates another huge asymmetry. <u></u>
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<p><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">>></span>Under copyright law, I can decide whether or not to publish the code i contribute. Under the p<span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">ro</span>posed license, it is required that this right is waived as a condition to use the copyright.
I think this is unprecedented. I might be making changes that I don't want to release to the public neither in object code, because they are buggy, because I don't want to take responsibility if anybody uses them. In this case, if I fork the project I have
NO WAY TO AVOID PROVIDING IT UPSTREAM. <span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Hence the value of Freedom Zero of the FSD. I continue to think that that concept is inherent in the OSD (in particular OSD 9), and not having it be a part of the OSD results
in rather bizarre theoretical results, which I outlined here: <a href="http://lists.opensource.org/pipermail/license-review_lists.opensource.org/2018-October/003751.html" target="_blank">
http://lists.opensource.org/pipermail/license-review_lists.opensource.org/2018-October/003751.html</a></span></p></div></div>
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