<div dir="ltr">OK, but my recommendation would be <i>do not accept</i> for both.<div><br></div><div>There has been ample discussion of the problems in SSPL, but this comes in two flavors: people discussing how it doesn't fit the OSD and the goals of Open Source, and a few people commenting that they like or need the license without offering refutation of the OSD issues and conflicts with the goals of Open Source. Licenses aren't approved by popularity contest.<div><br></div><div>In offline discussion with lots of business people who are interested in an Open Core business model, the consensus seems to be that they would like to standardize on a license, but they do not need to call it Open Source. A few lawyers tried to work on this, but I am not seeing that the project has legs. Open Core is outside of the mission of OSI, since it inherently requires a non-Open-Source license for some portion of the product. I involved myself individually mostly to make sure that there would not be conflicts with Open Source.</div></div><div><br></div><div>Regarding CFSL, the new language seems to be just as discriminatory as the old text, but it's hidden better. There is a trick of discussing the special group that is allowed to relicense in terms of "you", which doesn't change the effect of the terms. And it still seems to be non-lawyer-written.</div><div><br></div><div> Thanks</div><div><br></div><div> Bruce</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 9:13 PM Richard Fontana <<a href="mailto:richard.fontana@opensource.org">richard.fontana@opensource.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Here is a status update on licenses in review. The previous License<br>
Committee Report [1] is incorporated by reference.<br>
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Note that the libpng License version 2.0 [2] has been withdrawn by its<br>
submitter. [3]<br>
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I am delighted that Lukas Atkinson has begun to provide the<br>
license-review and license-discuss communities with summaries of<br>
discussion threads. Please see his December 2018 report for<br>
license-review. [4]<br>
<br>
The license review process proposed on license-discuss [5] has not yet<br>
been formally adopted, but for now I think we ought to attempt to use<br>
it as a guide for the timing and nature of recommended OSI decision<br>
outcomes on submitted licenses, if only to test its practicality.<br>
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Server Side Public License, Version 2<br>
<br>
Submission date: 2018-11-21 [6].<br>
<br>
Looking at the proposed process, SSPLv2 is “a revised version of a<br>
license that was previously submitted for review”, so a decision was<br>
due on or about 2018-12-21. I think therefore a decision on SSPLv2<br>
ought to be made at the next OSI board meeting (which is my today or<br>
tomorrow, 2019-01-10), which should be to have 30 more days of<br>
discussion, which would then mean another decision is due on or about<br>
2019-01-21. Perhaps what we should aim for is a recommendation from<br>
the License Committee Chair (currently me) on that date for a decision<br>
to be made by the OSI at its next board meeting. (OSI board meetings<br>
are typically held monthly.)<br>
<br>
Recommendation: Defer (retroactively) for another 30-day discussion<br>
cycle (from 2018-12-21), since community discussion of conformance of<br>
the license to the OSD remains active.<br>
<br>
<br>
Convertible Free Software License, Version 1.3<br>
<br>
Version (1.1) of this license was previously submitted [7]. The OSI<br>
decided to withhold approval of the license, pending submission of a<br>
redrafted version. The new version, 1.3, was submitted on<br>
2019-01-08. [8]<br>
<br>
Recommendation: No action at this time. Under the proposed license<br>
review process, a decision is due on or about 2019-02-08.<br>
<br>
<br>
Richard<br>
<br>
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[1] <a href="https://lists.opensource.org/pipermail/license-review_lists.opensource.org/2018-December/003869.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.opensource.org/pipermail/license-review_lists.opensource.org/2018-December/003869.html</a><br>
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[2] <a href="https://lists.opensource.org/pipermail/license-review_lists.opensource.org/2018-November/003791.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.opensource.org/pipermail/license-review_lists.opensource.org/2018-November/003791.html</a><br>
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[4] <a href="https://opensource.org/LicenseReview122018" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://opensource.org/LicenseReview122018</a><br>
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[5] <a href="https://lists.opensource.org/pipermail/license-discuss_lists.opensource.org/2018-December/020157.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.opensource.org/pipermail/license-discuss_lists.opensource.org/2018-December/020157.html</a><br>
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[6] <a href="https://lists.opensource.org/pipermail/license-review_lists.opensource.org/2018-November/003836.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.opensource.org/pipermail/license-review_lists.opensource.org/2018-November/003836.html</a><br>
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[7] <a href="https://lists.opensource.org/pipermail/license-review_lists.opensource.org/2018-September/003506.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.opensource.org/pipermail/license-review_lists.opensource.org/2018-September/003506.html</a><br>
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[8] <a href="http://lists.opensource.org/pipermail/license-review_lists.opensource.org/2019-January/003891.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.opensource.org/pipermail/license-review_lists.opensource.org/2019-January/003891.html</a><br>
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