<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">It looks like the GPL copyright issue is moot: <a href="https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#ModifyGPL">https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#ModifyGPL</a></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 4:41 PM Bruce Perens <<a href="mailto:bruce@perens.com">bruce@perens.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">The issue of the license text being infringing of FSF's copyright needs to be addressed. I doubt FSF is going to give permission for this use of their text. There is a possible 17 USC 102(b) argument, but most sources (Nimmer, Adams) disagree, and I don't know of any case law. This might require a full rewrite, and IMO OSI would face a risk of being a contributory infringer simply by hosting a copy of the current text on their site. The legal ambiguity of that might be sufficient reason for rejection.<div><div><br></div><div>I am most concerned with the second paragraph of section 13, and its conflict with OSD #9 and #6. The definition of how those pieces are coupled needs to be tighter. Management software, backup software, etc. may be used as part of the offering of a service, but they don't create a derivative work, nor are they combined into the same program. So, we get a restriction on works that are simply aggregated together (#9) or a restriction on use of the program if the data is backed up using a non-Open-Source backup program (#6).</div></div><div><br></div><div> Thanks</div><div><br></div><div> Bruce</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 8:31 AM Richard Fontana <<a href="mailto:fontana@sharpeleven.org" target="_blank">fontana@sharpeleven.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 09:03:02AM -0400, Eliot Horowitz wrote:<br>
> This license is being submitted for approval by its steward, MongoDB, Inc.<br>
<br>
Apologies if this was already noted in your submission: MongoDB,<br>
Inc. has made a redline from AGPLv3 available here:<br>
<a href="https://webassets.mongodb.com/_com_assets/legal/SSPL-compared-to-AGPL.pdf" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://webassets.mongodb.com/_com_assets/legal/SSPL-compared-to-AGPL.pdf</a><br>
<br>
Eliot, have you also contacted the Free Software Foundation about this<br>
license (to see whether they would consider it, or rather software<br>
licensed under it, to meet the Free Software Definition)?<br>
<br>
Richard<br>
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</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="m_-6145216768908341537gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Bruce Perens K6BP - CEO, Legal Engineering<br>Standards committee chair, license review committee member, co-founder, Open Source Initiative<div>President, Open Research Institute; Board Member, Fashion Freedom Initiative.<br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Bruce Perens K6BP - CEO, Legal Engineering<br>Standards committee chair, license review committee member, co-founder, Open Source Initiative<div>President, Open Research Institute; Board Member, Fashion Freedom Initiative.<br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>