<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 1:52 PM, Karan, Cem F CIV USARMY RDECOM ARL (US) <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cem.f.karan.civ@mail.mil" target="_blank">cem.f.karan.civ@mail.mil</a>></span> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5">
> I'm not saying you should not grant rights under a copyright regime. Attempting to contractually control the public domain within the<br>
> US, though, is too problematical.<br>
</div></div>So, give them the rights to the material under a license of some kind? One that doesn't depend on (non-existent) copyright? Like NOSA 2.0 is doing? </blockquote><div><br></div><div>No. Give them a license that depends on copyright, and can be enforced where copyright exists, and is silent about its effect where copyright doesn't exist. This does not restrict your capability to disclaim warranties, grant patent rights, and state terms for contributors (although a CLA is still advised). If you want to be nice to US citizens, tell them they may have additional rights.</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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For what it's worth, I understand your concerns, but there are still two problems:<br>
- USG works can't use a license that depends on copyright for enforcement<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>USG can use a copyright based license that only makes grants and disclaims warranties. It is when USG attempts to enforce restrictions that the license fails. This does not necessarily invalidate the disclaimer of warranties, but I would advise using a CLA rather than depending on the terms in the license.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
- JOSS and other venues refuse to accept material that isn't under some OSI-approved license.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>This is not insurmountable. IMO the JOSS position is extreme, even Debian allows public domain software. There are other journals to contribute to that would not present this barrier. For example IEEE gets a lot wider publication than JOSS. </div></div>
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