<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 11:45 PM, Kyle Mitchell <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kyle@kemitchell.com" target="_blank">kyle@kemitchell.com</a>></span> wrote:</div><div class="gmail_quote"><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I hope you'll forgive me. I couldn't<br>
quite decide what general impression to<br>
take from your message. "Killer<br>
argument" sounds good, at least to this<br>
lawyer's ear. "No cigar", not so much.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Sorry, I wrote that poorly; I meant a killer</div><div>argument against that feature of the license.</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Second, and conversely, there's no<br>
entitlement to others' software, even<br>
others' Open Source software, on the<br>
terms we might prefer. We might prefer<br>
the law as a whole leave software<br>
totally unencumbered by IP rights, in<br>
natural state akin to a total permissive<br>
license today, perhaps with an<br>
obligation to provide source to those<br>
affected. The bad news, of course: that<br>
is not the law.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>Neither is it the use that the copyright owner</div><div>can control every use. In particular, the</div><div>§ 117 right of software adaptation is lost</div><div>under your license without onerous conditions.</div><div>I call that copyright misuse.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">L0-R drives a harder<br>
"bargain" in that sense---its mores are<br>
more demanding---but the difference is<br>
one of degree, not of any totally new<br>
kind.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>What's totally new is that it is extended</div><div>beyond the copyright bundle into a whole</div><div>set of rights that people always have had.</div><div>If you look at the FSF's definition of software</div><div>freedom, the right to use (including the right</div><div>to adapt) is guaranteed.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">You wrote a little. I've written too<br>
much. If you make it this far, and even<br>
if you don't, thank you. Challenging<br>
feedback is the feedback I'm most<br>
grateful for.<span class="gmail-m_2317182408421675678gmail-HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><a href="https://lists.opensource.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/license-review" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"></a></font></span></blockquote><div><br></div><div>You're welcome. Please understand that</div><div>if my language is harsh, it is aimed only</div><div>at your license, not at you personally.</div><div><br></div><div>-- </div><div>John Cowan <a href="http://vrici.lojban.org/~cowan">http://vrici.lojban.org/~cowan</a> <a href="mailto:cowan@ccil.org">cowan@ccil.org</a></div><div>Humpty Dump Dublin squeaks through his norse</div><div> Humpty Dump Dublin hath a horrible vorse</div><div>But for all his kinks English / And his irismanx brogues</div><div> Humpty Dump Dublin's grandada of all rogues. --Cousin James </div><div><br></div></div><br></div></div>