<div style="min-height:672px"><div style="width:414px"><div style="min-height:672px;width:828px"><div style="width:414px"><div><div><div><font color="#000000" size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><div></div></span></font></div></div><div>Our Chinese version of ZPL can be found here</div></div><div><a href="http://zpl.pub/page/zplv12.html">http://zpl.pub/page/zplv12.html</a><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>Next, we would like to share<br><div><div style="margin-bottom:11px"><div><div><div><div><div style="min-height:1954px"><div style="min-height:1954px"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><p><font color="#000000" size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><b><i><span></span>Why we drafted ZPL? </i></b></span></font></p><p><font color="#000000" size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></font></p><p><font color="#000000" size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Everything should be considered with its background.</span></font></p><p><font color="#000000" size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></font></p><p><font color="#000000" size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">When Richard Stallman proposed the notion of free software, most of the software was controlled by big companies. Users at that time were in a less favored position and their main purpose of using software was to do scientific research. Richard proposed free software, so users could use, change and publish software freely. It was the era that the software was mainly basic software, such as operating system, database etc.</span></font></p><p><font color="#000000" size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></font></p><p><font color="#000000" size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Now computer is available to everyone and software is not just for scholars to do scientific research. Everyone can use software and those average users are more into the function of the software and the cost of using it. Not all of them cares about "free". In regards to open source software, there are over thousands of thousands open source programs on github, among which the most popular ones are funded by business entities or certain kind of foundations. It is really rare that open source software developed by one or a few developers can become popular.</span></font></p><p><font color="#000000" size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></font></p><p><font color="#000000" size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">There are a lot of searches on google about how to remove powered by wordpress, drupal. And a lot of the answers are "yes, you can" which means developers have the good will that users could actually keep the "powered by" mark so to promote their software.</span></font></p><p><font color="#000000" size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></font></p><p><font color="#000000" size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">It is true that users can remove the mark. But is it what we should promote? Or should the enthusiasm of the open source developers that should be promoted? This is also the reason that we drafted ZPL so to protect developers' enthusiasm. It is our belief that "free" comes with a certain kind of prerequisite. We also believe that users would have more software to use while open source software keep updating. If it is only emphasized that users' right to use open source software and their right to change it, rather than to protect developers' enthusiasm to develop and to update, the outcome is obvious. </span></font></p><p><font color="#000000" size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></font></p><p><font color="#000000" size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">It is the reality that there are Chinese open source developers live on very low income while users change their code and remove their badge. Therefore, can we think about the good deed and the bad one while we are talking about being "free"?</span></font></p><p><font color="#000000" size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></font></p><p><font color="#000000" size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">ZPL has been the foundation of the income of our team. We use ZPL to protect developers' benefit as well as our balance. In this way, we can keep updating our software and users can get supports as they need.</span></font></p><p><font color="#000000" size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></font></p><p><font color="#000000" size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">It is our intention to clarify our point of views on ZPL with you, even it might not get approved. It is believed that a real good deed is more important to us than just being absolute free.</span></font></p><p><font color="#000000" size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></font></p></div></div><div style="clear:both"></div></div></div></div></div><div style="clear:both"></div></div></div></div></div></div><div></div><div><div style="width:394px"><div><div><div></div><div style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font color="#000000" face="Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" size="2">Reply</font></div></div></div><div></div><div><div><div></div><div style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font color="#000000" face="Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" size="2">Forward</font></div></div></div></div></div></div><div style="width:414px"><div></div><div><div><div><div></div></div><div><font face="Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><span>[License-review] Approval request for ZENTAO PUBLIC LICENSE</span><span><div></div></span></span></font></div></div><div><div><div><div></div><img src="https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/photos/josh%40postgresql.org?at=AF6bupN3fNYxoq-bnoU2BQJogRNJtB9qDg&sz=100&pld=1"></div><div><div></div><span style="white-space:normal;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font color="#000000" face="Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" size="2">Saturday</font></span></div><div><font color="#000000" size="2"><span style="white-space:normal;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">TENG .. Richard, Josh (62)</span></font></div><div><font color="#000000" size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">On 06/23/2016 09:06 PM, Matthias Merkel wrote: > As said before: This makes the situation a</span></font></div></div></div><div><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><div></div></span></font></div></div></div></div><div></div><div></div></div></div><br>On Saturday, June 25, 2016, Josh berkus <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','josh@postgresql.org');" target="_blank">josh@postgresql.org</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On 06/23/2016 09:06 PM, Matthias Merkel wrote:<br>
> As said before: This makes the situation a completely defferent one. I'm<br>
> not sure but maybe even legacy approval would be appropriate what would<br>
> be easier for your license but I can't say that. Maybe Richard can help<br>
> us there.<br>
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Well, I think that legacy approval is the definite correct road.<br>
<br>
The new questions are:<br>
<br>
1. Can we get a Chinese reader to review the Chinese version, since it's<br>
the authoritative version?<br>
<br>
2. Is there anything in the license which is a direct contradiction of<br>
the OSD?<br>
<br>
3. *Can* Zentao change any of the terms of the license to bring it into<br>
line with the OSD?<br>
<br>
Re: (1) I strongly suspect that some of the issues with the license are<br>
in translation.<br>
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