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<div>Thanks Richard. We would love to hear your idea. The sooner the better </div>
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From: Richard Fontana <<a dir="ltr" href="mailto:fontana@sharpeleven.org" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="link" x-apple-data-detectors-result="1">fontana@sharpeleven.org</a>><br>
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 10:47 PM<br>
Subject: Re: [License-review] Outstanding license submissions<br>
To: Bryan Geurts <<a dir="ltr" href="mailto:superbag22@hotmail.com" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="link" x-apple-data-detectors-result="4">superbag22@hotmail.com</a>><br>
Cc: License submissions for OSI review <<a dir="ltr" href="mailto:license-review@opensource.org" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="link" x-apple-data-detectors-result="5">license-review@opensource.org</a>><br>
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Hi Bryan,<br>
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Apologies. I have an idea about how to make some progress with this. No <br>
begging necessary!<br>
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Richard<br>
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On 2016-02-02 17:55, Bryan Geurts wrote:<br>
> Hi Richard,<br>
> <br>
> We are still waiting. In a couple months it will be two years since<br>
> NASA first submitted NOSA 2.0 for certification. How can we help<br>
> facilitate the process? At this point we are willing to about<br>
> anything, including collectively getting onto our knees and begging,<br>
> if that would help.<br>
> <br>
> Please advise.<br>
> <br>
> Bryan<br>
> <br>
> ________________________________________<br>
> From: Richard Fontana <<a dir="ltr" href="mailto:fontana@sharpeleven.org" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="link" x-apple-data-detectors-result="10">fontana@sharpeleven.org</a>><br>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 10:07 AM<br>
> To: License submissions for OSI review<br>
> Cc: <a dir="ltr" href="mailto:superbag22@hotmail.com" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="link" x-apple-data-detectors-result="12">
superbag22@hotmail.com</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [License-review] Outstanding license submissions<br>
> <br>
> Hi Bryan,<br>
> <br>
> No other than that this is weighing heavily on my mind. I just need to<br>
> set aside some time to prepare a full set of comments on the license<br>
> text (which might not be extensive).<br>
> <br>
> Regarding your earlier message, I don't think a conference call is<br>
> needed at this stage, but once I prepare said full set of comments we<br>
> can see where things stand.<br>
> <br>
> Richard<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 03:49:27PM +0000, Bryan Geurts wrote:<br>
>> The NASA OS team is meeting this afternoon. Is there any update I can <br>
>> provide<br>
>> regarding the NOSA 2.0 certification?<br>
>> Bryan<br>
>> <br>
>> Sent from Outlook<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 12:36 PM -0700, "Bryan Geurts" <br>
>> <<a dir="ltr" href="mailto:superbag22@hotmail.com" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="link" x-apple-data-detectors-result="16">superbag22@hotmail.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>> <br>
>> Has there been any action taken on the NOSA 2.0 yet? We at NASA <br>
>> continue<br>
>> to anxiously await approval. If I remember correctly, we first <br>
>> submitted it<br>
>> for approval about two years ago.<br>
>> <br>
>> Bryan Geurts<br>
>> <br>
>> > Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 23:47:06 -0400<br>
>> > From: <a dir="ltr" href="mailto:fontana@opensource.org" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="link" x-apple-data-detectors-result="19">
fontana@opensource.org</a><br>
>> > To: <a dir="ltr" href="mailto:license-review@opensource.org" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="link" x-apple-data-detectors-result="20">
license-review@opensource.org</a><br>
>> > Subject: [License-review] Outstanding license submissions<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Hi license-review,<br>
>> ><br>
>> > There are a number of licenses that have been submitted for approval<br>
>> > that have fallen through the cracks. What that number is is<br>
>> > debatable.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > 1. It is agreed by everyone, I think, that the NASA Open Source<br>
>> > Agreement 2.0 was properly formally submitted (more than once, in<br>
>> > fact).<br>
>> ><br>
>> > I intend to post something separately about this one.<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > 2. I went back and looked at the archives of license-review (from the<br>
>> > point of this list's hosting on <a dir="ltr" href="http://opensource.org" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="link" x-apple-data-detectors-result="22">
opensource.org</a>, i.e. late 2011). I<br>
>> > believe that each of the following was arguably a formal request for<br>
>> > OSI approval, with no indication that there was anything formally<br>
>> > lacking in the submission, yet I don't think any of these was<br>
>> > acknowledged by the OSI as having been formally submitted and I<br>
>> > believe no decision was ever made on any of them. Some of these,<br>
>> > particularly the earlier ones, were seen at the time as part of a<br>
>> > troubling wave of "crayon licenses". For at least one or two, it is<br>
>> > likely that the license submitter gave up, not having the tenacity of,<br>
>> > say, Messrs. Geurts or Wright.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Forget Me Not License<br>
>> > <a dir="ltr" href="http://projects.opensource.org/pipermail/license-review/2012-January/" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="link" x-apple-data-detectors-result="23">
http://projects.opensource.org/pipermail/license-review/2012-January/</a><br>
>> 000072.html<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Svoboda<br>
>> > <a dir="ltr" href="http://projects.opensource.org/pipermail/license-review/2012-May/000416.html" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="link" x-apple-data-detectors-result="24">
http://projects.opensource.org/pipermail/license-review/2012-May/000416.html</a><br>
>> ><br>
>> > No Nonsense Open Source License<br>
>> > <a dir="ltr" href="http://projects.opensource.org/pipermail/license-review/2012-June/000441.html" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="link" x-apple-data-detectors-result="25">
http://projects.opensource.org/pipermail/license-review/2012-June/000441.html</a><br>
>> ><br>
>> > APL AROS Public License<br>
>> > <a dir="ltr" href="http://projects.opensource.org/pipermail/license-review/2012-July/000451.html" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="link" x-apple-data-detectors-result="26">
http://projects.opensource.org/pipermail/license-review/2012-July/000451.html</a><br>
>> ><br>
>> > Symisc Public License<br>
>> > <a dir="ltr" href="http://projects.opensource.org/pipermail/license-review/2012-September/" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="link" x-apple-data-detectors-result="27">
http://projects.opensource.org/pipermail/license-review/2012-September/</a><br>
>> 000484.html<br>
>> ><br>
>> > "BSD-based anti-patent license"<br>
>> > <a dir="ltr" href="http://projects.opensource.org/pipermail/license-review/2013-February/" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="link" x-apple-data-detectors-result="28">
http://projects.opensource.org/pipermail/license-review/2013-February/</a><br>
>> 000522.html<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Modular Open Software License 'working draft 5'<br>
>> > <a dir="ltr" href="http://projects.opensource.org/pipermail/license-review/2013-March/" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="link" x-apple-data-detectors-result="29">
http://projects.opensource.org/pipermail/license-review/2013-March/</a><br>
>> 000547.html<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Public Software License<br>
>> > <a dir="ltr" href="http://projects.opensource.org/pipermail/license-review/2014-March/" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="link" x-apple-data-detectors-result="30">
http://projects.opensource.org/pipermail/license-review/2014-March/</a><br>
>> 000750.html<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Russian Permissive Free Software License<br>
>> > <a dir="ltr" href="http://projects.opensource.org/pipermail/license-review/2014-March/" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="link" x-apple-data-detectors-result="31">
http://projects.opensource.org/pipermail/license-review/2014-March/</a><br>
>> 000758.html<br>
>> ><br>
>> > eCos License version 2.0<br>
>> > <a dir="ltr" href="http://projects.opensource.org/pipermail/license-review/2014-August/" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="link" x-apple-data-detectors-result="33">
http://projects.opensource.org/pipermail/license-review/2014-August/</a><br>
>> 000853.html<br>
>> ><br>
>> > GG License 1.0<br>
>> > <a dir="ltr" href="http://projects.opensource.org/pipermail/license-review/2015-January/" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="link" x-apple-data-detectors-result="35">
http://projects.opensource.org/pipermail/license-review/2015-January/</a><br>
>> 000968.html<br>
>> ><br>
>> > I am not including here license submissions that I believe it is<br>
>> > fairly clear were withdrawn from consideration by the submitter.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > You might argue that several of these were not really worth extensive<br>
>> > review, but a clear decision ought to have been made nonetheless, and<br>
>> > in any case that view can't apply to *all* of the license submissions<br>
>> > in this set.<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > 3. Really Old license submissions found by Engel Nyst:<br>
>> > (see <a dir="ltr" href="http://projects.opensource.org/pipermail/license-review/2013-November/" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="link" x-apple-data-detectors-result="36">
http://projects.opensource.org/pipermail/license-review/2013-November/</a><br>
>> 000733.html )<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Zope Public License 2.1<br>
>> > <a dir="ltr" href="http://www.mail-archive.com/license-discuss@opensource.org/msg07517.html" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="link" x-apple-data-detectors-result="38">
http://www.mail-archive.com/license-discuss@opensource.org/msg07517.html</a><br>
>> ><br>
>> > wxWidgets (name change of wxWindows)<br>
>> > <a dir="ltr" href="http://www.mail-archive.com/license-discuss@opensource.org/msg07542.html" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="link" x-apple-data-detectors-result="39">
http://www.mail-archive.com/license-discuss@opensource.org/msg07542.html</a><br>
>> ><br>
>> > W3C Software License and Notice (2002 version)<br>
>> > <a dir="ltr" href="http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.licenses.open-source.general/834" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="link" x-apple-data-detectors-result="40">
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.licenses.open-source.general/834</a><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > I am not sure how exhaustive Engel Nyst's research was but I have to<br>
>> > wonder whether there were other lost license approval requests from<br>
>> > the 2005-2011 period.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > I am not sure what if anything we should do about all of these, other<br>
>> > than NOSA 2.0 which clearly requires a decision by the board for the<br>
>> > very patient Mr. Geurts. If perchance anyone reading this was<br>
>> > associated with one of the listed license submissions, by all means<br>
>> > please indicate whether you wish to revive review of the license in<br>
>> > question.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Is there anything we should do to take better care of license approval<br>
>> > submissions? It was suggested a while back that we consider using an<br>
>> > issue tracker for all license approval requests.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Richard<br>
>> ><br>
>> > _______________________________________________<br>
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