<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div apple-content-edited="true"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>On Oct 5, 2013, at 12:40 PM, Josh Berkus wrote:</div></div></span></div></span></span></div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>Howard,<br><br><blockquote type="cite">My name is Howard Look. I am President/CEO of Tidepool Project. We<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">are a non-profit, (soon to be) open source project creating an open<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">platform and applications to help reduce the burden on people with<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Type 1 Diabetes. We are proposing that we a new create a new license,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">the Tidepool Open Access to Health Data Software License.<br></blockquote><br>Let me thank you for your tremendous thoroughness in preparing for this<br>license submission! It's a real pleasure to receive.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div>Thanks, Josh! I really appreciate the feedback.</div><div><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>Completely unrelated to approval, have you thought of simply calling it<br>the Health Data Software License? The reason I ask is that you've<br>identified a clear need here, and if the license proves viable, it could<br>be a template for other projects for whom open data is important.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>We did consider a more generic name, though I think it would be OK</div><div>(and nice for us as its originator) if "Tidepool" stayed in the name, even if it gets used</div><div>for other projects (not unlike "Apache" etc.).</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>As a Developer member of this panel, I will comment that the license<br>seems clear to me as a programmer, its provisions are fairly easy to<br>understand, and it does not appear to duplicate any existing license.<br>As a programmer, I would be willing to use this license.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div>That's great to hear.<br><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>However, the lawyers need to argue about the language used, in which I<br>have no expertise whatsoever. And, you know, whether an OSD-compliant<br>license can compel distributors to open up data.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div>Indeed, that's the (ahem) open question.</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><blockquote type="cite">We hope that the Tidepool license is reusable, and put it in the<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">category of "Special purpose licenses." We hope that it is reusable<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">by other projects delivering hardware and software medical<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">technology. We discussed this, for example, with members of the<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Implanted Cardiac Defibrillator community, who have similar desires<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">as the diabetes community for open patient access to data.<br></blockquote><br>Actually, I don't think this needs to be limited to Health data. You<br>could easily tweak the license so that every mention of "Health Data"<br>was replaced with "Personal Data", and then the license would suddenly<br>be useful for tons of mobile apps which keep people's personal stuff.<br>Well, you'd have to change more than that, but you see what I'm getting at?<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div>Interesting thought. I agree with the concept, although I worry a little that</div><div>the key point, which is really about access to health data, would get lost. I do</div><div>like that we are being explicit about it being a health issue.<br><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><blockquote type="cite">(C) Open Health Data. You must ensure that the Health Data remains<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Open to its Data Owner for a period of three years after the Health<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Data is first generated.<br></blockquote><br>Why three years? And what's the definition of "first generated"?<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div>The intent is "first generated by your body and collected by the device/sensor that gathered it from your body." </div><div>We are definitely open to suggestions for wording here.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks!</div><div>Howard</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><br>--Josh Berkus<br>_______________________________________________<br>License-review mailing list<br><a href="mailto:License-review@opensource.org">License-review@opensource.org</a><br>http://projects.opensource.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/license-review<br></div></blockquote></div><br></body></html>