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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Bruce Perens made a wish:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Perhaps, Larry, you could establish a background dialogue with Alexander so that the rest of us are spared.<br><br><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks a lot for the invitation, Bruce. It so happens I just wrote a detailed reply to Alexander and requested that we leave it rest. I'm glad I can do you this favor, which I will someday expect you to repay.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>/Larry<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> Bruce Perens [mailto:bruce@perens.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 08, 2012 5:49 PM<br><b>To:</b> license-review@opensource.org<br><b>Cc:</b> Lawrence Rosen<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [License-review] [License-discuss] CC0 incompliant with OSD on patents, [was: MXM compared to CC0 ]<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>On 03/08/2012 04:49 PM, Lawrence Rosen wrote: <o:p></o:p></p><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>We can spend a large amount of time discussing the legal effects of a public domain copyright dedication.<o:p></o:p></pre><p class=MsoNormal>The people who are making decisions are not attorneys, nor are those like me who are attempting to influence the process. Those folks sometimes need backgrounders on the law. We also have the participation of a number of people with interest in the law who aren't actually licensed to opine. Some of them quite good, and some who will be effective sources of misinformation if they go unchallenged.<br><br>On topics that attorneys aren't agreed upon, of which there seem to be a good many, we need to hear sufficient argument to make our own decision.<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>Should we approve the widely-admired CC0 license<o:p></o:p></pre><p class=MsoNormal><i>CC</i> is widely admired. The license alone does not have the same degree of admiration.<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Can we please decide this without doing a legal and business analysis of the glorious copyright public domain and the frightening world of patents?<o:p></o:p></pre><p class=MsoNormal>I don't see that we'd be effectively serving our community if we're bypassing this. However, I do believe that we can go through the process without having to address in great detail every one of Alexander's misconceptions regarding legal topics - and I'm sorry, but I am seeing a good many of them. Perhaps, Larry, you could establish a background dialogue with Alexander so that the rest of us are spared.<br><br> Thanks<br><br> Bruce<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></body></html>