[License-review] Review for the NIST Software License

McCoy Smith mccoy at lexpan.law
Tue Mar 31 17:37:59 UTC 2026


Lucas:
OSI has a two month review and comment period for all licenses. So NIST 
was in that process until earlier this month.

There has been a review at the Board of this license, at the March board 
meeting, with minutes and results to be published shortly.

On 3/31/2026 9:39 AM, Hale, Lucas M. (Fed) via License-review wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I’m just checking on the status of the NIST license as I haven’t heard 
> anything for over two months.
>
> Lucas
>
> *From:*License-review <license-review-bounces at lists.opensource.org> 
> *On Behalf Of *Hale, Lucas M. (Fed) via License-review
> *Sent:* Friday, January 9, 2026 10:06 AM
> *To:* License submissions for OSI review 
> <license-review at lists.opensource.org>
> *Cc:* Hale, Lucas M. (Fed) <lucas.hale at nist.gov>
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: [License-review] [EXTERNAL] Re: [EXTERNAL] 
> Re: Review for the NIST Software License
>
> The license I submitted is for NIST software that is provided as a 
> public service.  There should not be anything proprietary in any 
> associated code or repository.
>
> I only mentioned the contractor stuff because of the discussion in the 
> original thread.  It probably would depend on the specific project, 
> but I could see alternatives such as
>
>   * Some other (non-open source) license applying to the combined
>     work, or more likely
>   * A clear division between the open and proprietary components where
>     the open part does not contain proprietary tools or data but can
>     interface with such.
>
> Lucas
>
> *From:*License-review <license-review-bounces at lists.opensource.org> 
> *On Behalf Of *Pamela Chestek
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 8, 2026 10:04 PM
> *To:* license-review at lists.opensource.org
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: [License-review] [EXTERNAL] Re: Review for 
> the NIST Software License
>
> As I understand it, there wouldn't be any license needed for use in 
> the United States since the software is in the public domain in the 
> US, so the license applies (1) outside of the US and (2) in the US 
> where NIST could claim that the user contractually accepted the 
> limitations on use (the obligation to keep the notice and the waiver 
> of warranty) - but just using the software won't be enough to prove 
> contract, as it does when the agreement is a true copyright license. 
> But I'm generally not concerned with whether a license can be 
> enforced, just that, if it can be enforced, it doesn't have any 
> impermissible restrictions.
>
> I'm a little confused by this statement: "Cases where the work is 
> copyright-protected would fall under other licenses." Are you saying 
> that, if there is 3rd party-created software, this license won't be 
> used for it? The document says "NIST-developed software is provided by 
> NIST as a public service." This seems like a possible trap, that is, 
> is it an advisory that there could be software in the bundle that was 
> created by a contractor that isn't included under this license because 
> it isn't "NIST-developed," so it's up to the user to somehow figure 
> that out? It's not great to have it in the license, for that reason. 
> However, it also could be construed as non-operative language, with 
> the next sentences giving clear grants, even if some of the software 
> was created by contractors who have copyright.
>
> In light of the fact that this is a legacy government license I'm 
> inclined to overlook its flaws, since it's not trying to impose any 
> unacceptable restrictions. I don't see any reason not to approve it.
>
> Pam
>
> Pamela S. Chestek
> Chestek Legal
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>
> On 1/7/2026 1:35 PM, Hale, Lucas M. (Fed) via License-review wrote:
>
>     Hi All,
>
>     I finally managed to get meetings rescheduled after the shutdown
>     and holidays to get answers to your questions.
>
>     First, the primary questions for submission.
>
>     1. Describe what gap not filled by currently existing licenses
>     that the new license will fill.
>
>     Any open source software created at NIST using federal funding is
>     required to use the NIST software license. Software that
>     originates primarily from NIST-funded work must operate under US
>     government public access policies, which the NIST software license
>     is compliant with.
>
>     2. Compare it to and contrast it with the most similar
>     OSI-approved license(s).
>
>     The NIST license is close to the MIT license in that it defines
>     the copyright scope, usage rights, citation guidelines, and
>     liability disclaimers.  It differs in that because it is the
>     result of federally funded work it is not subject to copyright
>     protection in the US to begin with rather than giving the
>     copyright away.
>
>     3. Describe any legal review the license has been through,
>     including whether it was drafted by a lawyer.
>
>     The license was drafted by the NIST Office of Chief Council and
>     has undergone internal review and revisions over the years.
>
>     As for other discussion and questions from the thread:
>
>     This license is associated with US government-sponsored work that
>     is performed by government employees or others working at NIST. As
>     stated above and in the license, there is inherently no copyright
>     in the US with the associated work due to the US government public
>     access policies. However, it does specify usage permissions, terms
>     and conditions, and disclaimers to protect against legal liability.
>
>     As for outside the US, the
>     https://www.usa.gov/government-copyright page has this line: “The
>     U.S. government may assert copyright outside of the United States
>     for U.S. government works.” My guess is that this allows for
>     export-control over works to target countries, but I’m not sure if
>     this is currently being done on public access works.
>
>     Cases where the work is copyright-protected would fall under other
>     licenses.  For the “contractors” exceptions, from what I heard it
>     is less of a loophole and more the result of contract negotiations
>     between government organizations and external
>     contractors/subcontractors. The idea is that the external party
>     has or is developing proprietary tools and data that the
>     government wants to use, so complex contracts with special
>     provisions and clauses let the external party retain copyright
>     control while the government has usage rights. But, as stated,
>     that is outside the scope of the license under review.
>
>     Lucas
>
>     *From:*License-review
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>     <mailto:license-review-bounces at lists.opensource.org> *On Behalf Of
>     *Hale, Lucas M. (Fed) via License-review
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, September 30, 2025 11:22 AM
>     *To:* License submissions for OSI review
>     <license-review at lists.opensource.org>
>     <mailto:license-review at lists.opensource.org>
>     *Cc:* Hale, Lucas M. (Fed) <lucas.hale at nist.gov>
>     <mailto:lucas.hale at nist.gov>
>     *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: [License-review] Review for the NIST
>     Software License
>
>     Hi reviewers,
>
>     I reached out to those in charge of the NIST software policy and
>     will meet with them and our Office of Chief Council to discuss and
>     bring your questions to them. We’ll hopefully get answers for
>     moving forward in regards to both sides.
>
>     Note that since a US Government shutdown is imminent and at this
>     moment likely, progress on the NIST side may take some time and I
>     won’t have email access during the down time. Hopefully it won’t
>     happen or be too long, but if you need to table/withdraw the
>     review after a time period feel free to do so and we can try again
>     when possible.
>
>     Lucas
>
>     *From:*Carlo Piana <carlo at piana.eu>
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, September 30, 2025 4:58 AM
>     *To:* License submissions for OSI review
>     <license-review at lists.opensource.org>
>     *Cc:* Hale, Lucas M. (Fed) <lucas.hale at nist.gov>
>     *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: [License-review] Review for the NIST
>     Software License
>
>
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>     	
>
>     Lucas,
>
>     if I understand correctly, this should not technically be a
>     license, since the software is not subject to copyright in the USA
>     as far as it has been created by NIST employees. I think that if
>     software is not given protection in the state of first publication
>     is not protected even elsewhere, under the Berne Convention,
>     therefore this is basically a dedication to public domain, whose
>     primary scope is the liability disclaimer(s).
>
>     However, the "provided that you keep intact this entire notice" is
>     technically (US lawyers please help) a condition, that means this
>     is a license with conditional grant, after all. The other
>     condition-like provision uses the verb "should", which is more of
>     an invite,  at face value.
>
>     I do not see anything that would prevent this text to be approved,
>     maybe in the "non reusable" category. But could NIST give us their
>     position on the above discussion, for the sake of clarity, please?
>
>     Cheers
>
>     Carlo (in his personal provisional view and capacity)
>
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>         <mailto:lucas.hale at nist.gov>>
>         *Inviato: *Lunedì, 29 settembre 2025 22:13:02
>         *Oggetto: *[License-review] Review for the NIST Software License
>
>         Hi OSI reviewers!
>
>         I would like to submit the National Institute of Standards and
>         Technology (NIST) Software license for review to be included
>         in your list.  This is the primary license that NIST staff are
>         expected to use when releasing software.
>
>         The license complies with the Open Source Definition,
>         including the OSD 3, 5, 6 and 9 criteria.
>
>         There are numerous projects using the NIST software.  For
>         instance, there are 1.3K repositories at
>         https://github.com/usnistgov
>         <https://github.com/usnistgov>that should all be using the
>         license.  As such, it falls under the legacy category.
>
>         The NIST license is also listed on the main NIST website
>         https://www.nist.gov/open/copyright-fair-use-and-licensing-statements-srd-data-software-and-technical-series-publications
>         <https://www.nist.gov/open/copyright-fair-use-and-licensing-statements-srd-data-software-and-technical-series-publications>,
>         and has an SPDX listing
>         https://spdx.org/licenses/NIST-Software.html
>         <https://spdx.org/licenses/NIST-Software.html>. Under both
>         sites, it is titled “NIST Software License”
>
>         Thank you for your time and consideration!
>
>         Sincerely,
>
>         Lucas Hale
>
>
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