[License-review] New License for review: ADVPL 1.0

Carlo Piana carlo at piana.eu
Fri Sep 6 08:09:23 UTC 2024


> Da: "Ω Alisson" <thelinuxlich at gmail.com>
> A: "License submissions for OSI review" <license-review at lists.opensource.org>
> Inviato: Giovedì, 5 settembre 2024 18:09:23
> Oggetto: Re: [License-review] New License for review: ADVPL 1.0

> The conditions having nothing to do with software is debatable.

I beg to differ, it isn't, not quite! 

Plus, they are *not* conditions. Please don't insist. 

> There are examples like the [ https://www.json.org/license.html | JSON License ]
> (The Software shall be used for Good, not Evil), the [
> https://firstdonoharm.dev/ | Hippocratic License ] (probably not OSI-compliant,
> but in the same ethical vein).

This is immaterial to the discussion. Even if they were accepted as OSD-compliant licenses -- and they are not --, this would not make this license compliant even if it was identical. 

Please never use the "but license x does the same" argument. If there was a mistake in approving one license, this does not mean the same mistake must be repeated over and over. 

> By the License Review Process, is lawyer consultancy obligatory or just the
> mentioning of it?

McCoy has already answered, I defer to that answer. 

I second the opinion that you should probably withdraw the submission and consider the valuable advice you have been provided with (for free). Given the kind of feedback you have received, this is probably the most convenient way to proceed. 

All the best, 

Carlo 

> On Thu, Sep 5, 2024 at 12:58 PM Carlo Piana < [ mailto:carlo at piana.eu |
> carlo at piana.eu ] > wrote:

>> Dear Alisson,

>> you purport to have added "conditions", but in fact you have added general
>> aspirational staments which technically do not consist of conditions.
>> Therefore, the grant is conditioned to conditions which are not conditions and
>> that have nothing to do with the interaction with software. At best, it is
>> matter that would belong in a preamble. Please consider this as a technical
>> remark, not as a remark on the principles (with which I seem to agree, but it's
>> immaterial).

>> In addition, I think this submission does not fully comply with the submission
>> guidelines. I doubt a lawyer has laid their eyes on this text and I can't find
>> any such indication.

>> The conclusion IMHO should be "rejection".

>> With best regards,

>> Carlo (in his own personal capacity)

>>> Da: "Ω Alisson" < [ mailto:thelinuxlich at gmail.com | thelinuxlich at gmail.com ] >
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>>> Inviato: Mercoledì, 4 settembre 2024 18:45:50
>>> Oggetto: [License-review] New License for review: ADVPL 1.0

>>> In accordance with the [ http://opensource.org/approval | License Review Process
>>> ] , I'd like to submit for review the Adversary Public License 1.0 (ADVPL),
>>> which is composed of the MIT license text + 7 tenets from the Temple of Satan.
>>> It complies with all terms of the Open Source Definition, the suggested tag is
>>> ADVPL. Currently no significant projects use it, although there is intent once
>>> it's approved.

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