[License-review] Final comment on Open Logistics License (was Re: For Approval: Open Logistics License v1.2)

Andreas Nettsträter andreas.nettstraeter at openlogisticsfoundation.org
Fri Dec 16 08:10:01 UTC 2022


Dear Pam, dear Karen,

When we talk about logistics, we use it in the meaning of supply chain management and the management of the flow of goods (physical transport, storage, etc.). Our partners are for example globally operating logistics service providers, warehouse operators, forwarders and shippers. We want to establish more collaboration in logistics by developing and using open source software together. Concrete results can be components, libraries or applications, e.g. for the use and sharing of digital transport documents, harmonised tracking processes or customs services. The intent is to share all results as open source.

The wide definition of the "Subject Matter of the License" is definitely an outcome of this. Further we were requested to make the formulations as unambiguous and explicit as possible, e.g. see the paragraph regarding warranty.

I'm happy to share more information about the work of the Open Logistics Foundation if desired.

Regards
Andreas


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Betreff: Re: [License-review] Final comment on Open Logistics License (was Re: For Approval: Open Logistics License v1.2)

On 2022-12-15 13:20, Pamela Chestek wrote:
> Hi Andreas,
> 
> Thanks for the clarification. I don't think that "open logistics" is 
> an established term, but we see a lot of people using "open" or "open 
> source" for the marketing message when what they are using the term 
> for isn't truly open source, so we're very sensitive to how "open" is 
> used. I understand your rationale and I have no preference for one or 
> the other, but I'll let anyone else chime in if they think one name is 
> better than the other.
> 
> Also, are there aspects of this license that were designed 
> specifically for the logistics field? The more information we have 
> about its intended use, the better we can reflect on it with that use 
> case in mind and evaluate whether there are any flaws. I noted before 
> the broader definition of "Subject Matter of the License," which could 
> include  hardware. I assumed that was because of your foundation's 
> focus on logistics, is that correct? And are there other ways that 
> this license is designed for the particular field of use of logistics?

+1,  I'd also love to learn a bit more about what in particular this
license is designed to accomplish specifically in relation to logistics.

We at SFC have never used the term "open logistics", but we are a 
logistics focused org. For example, we handle logistical aspects for our 
member projects (which are themselves open source projects). We strive 
to do this logistical work using only free and open source software and 
try our best to support initiatives that enhance collaboration on FOSS 
for the purposes of improving logistics work. We talk about it in 
various places in our public messaging and have been having 
conversations with potential grantmakers about this work. As a result, 
we generally see logistics as a very generic term and adding open to it 
(i.e. "open logistics"), sound like a term that means handling logistics 
with open source software.

Do you perhaps mean something more specific than we do in using the word 
"logistics"? (I went to check out your site but was reluctant to accept 
essential cookies on the OLF site without being able to review the 
privacy policy - you might want to consider a "reject all" option or 
otherwise making the privacy policy accessible from the pop up.)



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