[License-review] Fwd: [Non-DoD Source] Resolution on NOSA 2.0

Bruce Perens bruce at perens.com
Tue Mar 13 16:12:39 UTC 2018


> and that they may not fully or correctly understand the complexities and
requirements on the USG as understood by USG lawyers

I am not admitted to the Bar and am likely to miss some issues. When that
is the problem, we would like to see those things explained.

On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 9:03 AM, Tzeng, Nigel H. <Nigel.Tzeng at jhuapl.edu>
wrote:

> As long as the experts from the open source community understands that
> this is a special purpose license for the USG and that they may not fully
> or correctly understand the complexities and requirements on the USG as
> understood by USG lawyers that seems useful.
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> I see no need to make NOSA a general purpose reusable license for anyone
> outside of the USG (i.e. “works for everyone”).  There is a special purpose
> license category for a reason.  This point seems completely lost on
> opponents of any movement forward by the Government Open Source Software
> community.
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> Code.gov is moving along and frankly, having a large catalog of code under
> the government-wide reuse category fulfills a large portion of the needs of
> government.  Making it harder to go to the next step and open sourcing the
> code seems counterproductive.
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> On 3/13/18, 10:53 AM, "License-review on behalf of Simon Phipps" <
> license-review-bounces at lists.opensource.org on behalf of simon at webmink.com>
> wrote:
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> Bruce:  Thanks for all the time you have invested in this.
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> Bryan:  I concur with Bruce and also hope you'll take the comments on
> textual complexity into account. I would suggest that in addition to
> attorneys you retain an expert in open source community matters from
> outside NASA (in fact from outside US government circles generally) to
> assist with review. I am sure members of this list can make recommendations
> if you need them.
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> Best regards
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> Simon
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> On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 3:03 AM, Bruce Perens <bruce at perens.com> wrote:
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> Hi Bryan,
>
> I reviewed the NASA Open Source Agreement about 20 days ago. I have
> continued to develop my understanding of the license, including from
> discussion with Nigel and John Cowan. I could do a third pass of review
> based on my improved understanding, but the result would still be that I
> concur with the OSI board's decision to decline to accept the license as
> written. I would encourage you to work on 3.0 and to do peer review with
> other attorneys before submitting it, but I'm eager to see 3.0 and hope
> that you can arrive at a license that works for everyone.
>
>     Thanks
>
>     Bruce Perens
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