[License-review] Some notes for license submitters

[Bruce Perens]

On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 2:35 AM, Kyle Mitchell <kyle at kemitchell.com> wrote:
>
> Lots of open source development goes on via GitHub.com.
> GitHub has been around 10 years.  Did using SourceForce, in
> its earlier days make one a proprietary tribesman?
>

This is not the reason, and I need not continue this portion of the
discussion, as it doesn't have to do with license terms.

Folks interested in a strong reciprocal license aren't the anti-license
> crowd.  Quote the opposite.
>

Unfortunately they are interested in a strong reciprocal non-Open-Source
license.

You asked, by the by, after a long back-and-forth by private mail, where
> you questioned my intelligence, my integrity, brandished professional
> ethics action, and more or less threatened to rally a posse.


I think you're confusing me with other people. I do think I said that if
you called it an Open Source license, that I'd tell everyone it wasn't one.



> No, Bruce, I'm not introducing you to my braintrust.
>

I'm going to let that statement speak for itself.

...

Lots of text not having to do with license terms not bothered with.


> > > Don't forget OSL!
> >
> > Don't make me plow through OSL guessing what text you mean.
>
>   5) External Deployment. The term "External Deployment"
>      means the use, distribution, or communication of the
>      Original Work or Derivative Works in any way such that
>      the Original Work or Derivative Works may be used by
>      anyone other than You, whether those works are
>      distributed or communicated to those persons or made
>      available as an application intended for use over a
>      network. As an express condition for the grants of
>      license hereunder, You must treat any External
>      Deployment by You of the Original Work or a Derivative
>      Work as a distribution under section 1(c).
>

It's still a term requiring provision of derivative works in source code
form. You can use the software for any purpose. You can run any program you
like through it as input without encumbering that program.

> See the Sleepycat license for one. Very old and not the text I'd have them
> > use today, but the intent was to have the terms of the GPL without the
> > philosophy.
>
> A BSD variant.


Not in its effect.
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