[License-review] For Approval: Rewrite of License Zero Reciprocal Public License
Kyle Mitchell
kyle at kemitchell.com
Tue Nov 14 06:48:35 UTC 2017
On 2017-11-13 10:11, Richard Fontana wrote:
> Hi Kyle,
>
> On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 11:10:31PM -0800, Kyle Mitchell wrote:
> > For what it's worth, my confusion here traces back to
> > https://opensource.org/approval once more:
> >
> > What Will Happen
> >
> > 1. The License Review community will discuss on the
> > mailing list for at least 30 days. The submitter
> > should participate in this discussion by replying to
> > any questions asked or claims made about the license.
> >
> > 2. The License Review Chair will summarize and present
> > recommendations to OSI Board (and copy the list).
> >
> > 3. The OSI Board will make the final decision, or requests
> > for additional information, at the next monthly
> > meeting.
> >
> > 4. The License Review Chair will report back to the List.
> >
> > 5. If Approved, the OSI Website will be updated as
> > appropriate.
> >
> > The website names Luis License Review Chair, but I
> > understand he no longer holds the post. I gathered that
> > Richard does, somewhere along the way. I can't recall
> > offhand how. And I took his recent e-mail laying out
> > questions for the board as preparation for the report
> > mentioned above.
>
> Ah, sorry, that is not exactly what that email was for, not
> specifically. Rather I was trying to facilitate step 1, as step 2
> seemed premature. Or maybe just trying to organize my own thoughts, as
> a participant in this mailing list.
Forgive me if I wasn't clear. I didn't think your message
_was_ the step 2 report. But I thought it was floating a
structure that report might eventually take.
For what it's worth, it helped to organize my thoughts, too.
> > I so wish that my first e-mail to license-discuss had been a
> > request for an overview of the process, soup to nuts.
> > Instead, I did what looked for all the world like my
> > homework, and followed its instructions. I can't help
> > feeling that's hurt more than helped me.
> >
> > I have no desire to lay blame anywhere, on anyone. But
> > someone should please update /approval, before it takes
> > another victim. If only to replace it with instructions to
> > inquire on this list.
>
> I'm not really sure what major discrepancy you are seeing between what
> /approval says and what you've been experiencing. It does seem to me
> that you may have assumed the review process (up until the actual OSI
> board vote, if one is held) is more formal than, in practice, it is.
That's fair. If I kvetch, I should kvetch constructively.
Trying to sum it up just as succinctly as I can:
1. I would update /approval to make explicit that both the
list and the board will apply their own judgment and
policy preferences, atop their readings of the
Definition, in deciding whether to approve a license. And
I would spell out, as a gloss, that the board may very
well choose _not_ to approve even non-redundant
submissions that conform to the Definition.
2. I would update /approval to clarify that the process will
not proceed to a structured board decision or feedback
until license-review reaches consensus of all mailing
list participants. (I am paraphrasing what I recall from
Simon's note here.) I would also note who will make the
call that consensus has been reached. Perhaps the License
Review Chair.
3. If the process up to current step 2 aims to be informal,
I would mention that on /approval, as well.
I don't like the differences I think these updates would
reflect. But there's nothing I value like an outside,
new-eyes read of writing I'm familiar with.
--
Kyle Mitchell, attorney // Oakland // (510) 712 - 0933
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