Request for approval: EUPL (European Union Public Licence)

John Cowan cowan at
Sat Mar 15 18:02:20 UTC 2008

Matthew Flaschen scripsit:

> >Yes, this clause is not acceptable.  *I* could accept "new version of
> >the License becomes finding for You as soon as You become aware of its
> >approval by the OSI as an Open Source license." but I recognize that
> >other people may feel differently.
> I would still object to that, and I don't think OSI has approved such a 
> license.  


> I'd rather have free software in a totalitarian state than no free 
> software in a totalitarian state.

Fortunately, there are no totalitarian states at present, only democratic
and authoritarian ones.

> >Sure it is.  It's just a choice of legal systems, just a
> >jurisdiction.  Otherwise you're asking lawyers to draft a legal
> >document without knowing what system of laws it will be subject to.
> >Let's play a card game without Hoyle's and see if we can do it without
> >arguments.
> It's fine to specify EU law if the licensor is in Europe.  But 
> otherwise, it should be the law of the licensor's residence.


This falls afoul of the same problem.  X releases an original work within
the EU; Y releases a derivative from some benighted country where the
EUPL is invalid.  Y's code is unfree.

We have consistently accepted licenses that required a particular choice
of law.  We shouldn't change that now.

John Cowan   cowan at
Original line from The Warrior's Apprentice by Lois McMaster Bujold:
"Only on Barrayar would pulling a loaded needler start a stampede toward one."
English-to-Russian-to-English mangling thereof: "Only on Barrayar you risk to
lose support instead of finding it when you threat with the charged weapon."

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