<div dir="ltr">Hi Morten,<div><br></div><div>Some Open Source licensors have arrived at the compromise of allowing the use of their patent claims <i>necessarily infringed</i> in use of the licensed copyrighted property, and no more. This does, of course, allow for fabrication and use of a machine, not simply simulation of a machine, so I can see that it would not be what you desire.</div><div><br></div><div>Obviously, if the risk of true Open Source is too high, the property should not be Open Sourced. It seems very clear that you want a limited license. I looked at the Creative Commons licenses, I don't think any of those are a great fit either but you might prefer one.</div><div><br></div><div>Back when I published my book series as Open Source, it was low risk because we didn't have e-book readers and people still bought the paper version. Now, it would not work commercially, just as it doesn't necessarily work to open a shape in the context of Xometry and SendCutSend.</div><div><br></div><div>Regarding a license for graphics, we do have a really large community of creators of 3D objects going back to the Newell teapot in 1975, but explicitly for fabrication since the advent of 3D printers. The licenses these creators are using aren't a perfect fit, but the proposed one doesn't so far seem to offer them a better path.</div><div><br></div><div> Thanks</div><div><br></div><div> Bruce</div><div><br></div></div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Nov 12, 2025 at 5:00\u202fAM Kevin P. Fleming via License-discuss <<a href="mailto:license-discuss@lists.opensource.org">license-discuss@lists.opensource.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg477334605222301421"><u></u><div><div>On Wed, Nov 12, 2025, at 06:31, Morten Fruelund via License-discuss wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite" id="m_477334605222301421qt"><p style="text-align:left;text-indent:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);margin:0cm"><span style="color:rgb(36,36,36)"><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:9pt">As a last resort, we would like to ask you if you see any way that we can allow the licensed materials (in the form of graphics) to be used freely with the sole exception
of not (necessarily) letting anyone make functioning, physical copies of the products represented by the graphics and still get the license approved by the OSI?</span></span></span></p></blockquote><div><br></div><div>This would be roughly similar to publishing software (source code) under a license which disallows distribution of devices containing the software. I am pretty sure this has been attempted before, but even if it hasn't it would fail the OSD compliance test in my opinion (IANAL, of course).</div><div><br></div><div>In general attempting to license something using an OSI-approved/OSD-compliant license but also making it a 'product' on its own will inevitably result in conflict. As has been said many times in may places, 'open source' is not a business model, although publishing materials under open source licenses can be part of an effective business model if the business model is based on additional services or products which supplement the open source materials.</div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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