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<p>So, if you want this to be reviewed and approved,
"license-discuss" is not the right mail list to do that. However,
if you want people to give comments before you submit for
approval, this is the correct mailing list.</p>
<p>Just looking at the first listed license, it would not be
approvable because Secs. 3.2 and 3.3 disclaim any grants express
or implied of patent and trade secret rights.</p>
<p>Otherwise, I find the drafting of these licenses very convoluted
and odd and this, if you are serious about it, probably needs a
lawyer review if you intend to submit for approval.</p>
<p>Also, the last license is enumerated as "proprietary" so that
can't and wouldn't be approved.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/29/2024 11:58 PM, (Holloway) Chew,
Kean Ho via License-discuss wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_default">Hi all,</div>
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<div class="gmail_default">Wish you a lovely day. Complying
to <a href="https://opensource.org/licenses/review-process"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://opensource.org/licenses/review-process</a> process,
I wish to invite everyone here to discuss and pre-review my
newly drafted open-source licenses not just for software but
also general intellectual properties usage before submitting
to license-review mailing list.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default">The main goal is to create a new
set of license frameworks which does not require issuing
multiple outbound licenses (e.g. Apache 2.0 for software,
CC-BY-ND for images, CC-BY-SA for video, ...) for a single
project repository and picked up the latest updates in the
market implementations.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default">What was mainly updated:</div>
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<ol>
<li style="margin-left:15px">Changed Software to Product
so that the license can be expanded to non-software
product licensing usage (e.g. graphics, video,
manufacturing design, audio, etc) without needing to
spin multiple outbound licenses; AND</li>
<li style="margin-left:15px">Added license assignment,
ratification, and tenure section to specify when and how
is the license applied; AND</li>
<li style="margin-left:15px">Added version controlled
clauses for which version shall be in effect by default;
AND</li>
<li style="margin-left:15px">Added artificial intelligence
training dataset usage clauses; AND</li>
<li style="margin-left:15px">Added Sensitive Data warranty
and liability coverage; AND</li>
<li style="margin-left:15px">Added global vendors (e.g.
datacenter) Sensitive Data limitation of liability; AND</li>
<li style="margin-left:15px">Added force manjure
limitation of liability; AND</li>
<li style="margin-left:15px">Added global vendors (e.g.
datacenter) Sensitive Data limitation of liability; AND</li>
<li style="margin-left:15px">Added judiciary minimal
damage values limitation of liability; AND</li>
<li style="margin-left:15px">Expanded grant clauses into
Creative Commons' rights categories;</li>
<li style="margin-left:15px">AND Added geographical
indicator coverage; AND</li>
<li style="margin-left:15px">Added protected geographical
indicator coverage; AND</li>
<li style="margin-left:15px">Added protected designation
indicator coverage; AND</li>
<li style="margin-left:15px">Added industrial design use
coverage; AND</li>
<li style="margin-left:15px">Added integrated circuit
layout design use coverage; AND</li>
<li style="margin-left:15px">Added trade secret use
coverage.</li>
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<div class="gmail_default">There are 4 sets of licenses (3 are
open-source):</div>
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<div class="gmail_default">(1) chewkeanho-rlos</div>
<div class="gmail_default">A libre-like license similar to
BSD3-Clear but reserves registered IPs (patent, etc) back to
the owner.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default">Primary license source: <a
href="https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.13777226"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.13777226</a></div>
<div class="gmail_default">Backup license source: <a
href="https://github.com/ChewKeanHo/license-rlos"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/ChewKeanHo/license-rlos</a></div>
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<div class="gmail_default">(2) chewkeanho-cos</div>
<div class="gmail_default">An Apache 2.0-like license where
registered IPs are granting use licenses by default.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default">Primary license source: <a
href="https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.13788522"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.13788522</a></div>
<div class="gmail_default">Backup license source: <a
href="https://github.com/ChewKeanHo/license-cos"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/ChewKeanHo/license-cos</a></div>
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<div class="gmail_default">(3) chewkeanho-gpos</div>
<div class="gmail_default">A GPLv2-like general public
license. Functions like a backhole open-source that makes
everything general public and forcing upstream. Copyleft
boundaries designations (where its effects shall stop) are
included and warning notice is on the cover page in case of
excited junior executives.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default">Primary license source: <a
href="https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.13825030"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.13825030</a></div>
<div class="gmail_default">Backup license source: <a
href="https://github.com/ChewKeanHo/license-gpos"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/ChewKeanHo/license-gpos</a></div>
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<div class="gmail_default">(4) chewkeanho-proprietary</div>
<div class="gmail_default">A fallback, safety first, designed
specifically for junior executives in case of mishaps. The
goal is that, when a project is generated, this shall be the
default license (where everything is locked up). Just in
case a junior accidentally "open" the project, the
proprietary license effect is still there where any senior /
legal executive can fire-fight the situation. The project
can be re-licensed into the other open-source licenses once
the embargo is cleared by the business unit.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default">IMPORTANT: This is not an
open-source license but is listed here for reference as the
other licenses are inter-relate with each other. </div>
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<div class="gmail_default">Primary license source: <a
href="https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.13767361"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.13767361</a></div>
<div class="gmail_default">Backup license source: <a
href="https://github.com/ChewKeanHo/license-proprietary"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/ChewKeanHo/license-proprietary</a></div>
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<div class="gmail_default">Proposed SPDX identifier:</div>
<div class="gmail_default">Recommended: **chewkeanho-Xos** (X
is the type like c, gp, rl) since there is a version control
clause so the stewards can update the primary license
without backfiring the older versions.</div>
<div class="gmail_default">If version locked is required:
**chewkeanho-Xos-5-and-above** (where version 5 is reserved
and shall includes the feedback from OSI)</div>
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<div class="gmail_default">Supported languages: English</div>
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<div class="gmail_default">Available file formats: (1) PDF -
for legal folks; AND (2) RTF - for Microsoft MSI packager;
(3) TXT - for Unix packager (e.g. debian package)</div>
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<div class="gmail_default">Source redundancies: (1) Zenodo -
in the EU that issued the common DOI; AND (2) GitHub, in the
US.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default">Feedbacks & amendments are
welcome. Version 4 is reserved for OSI feedback and
improvement for externals.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default">Site-note: if possible, please let
me issue PDF for each iteration. the TXT requires manual
formatting (to make it human readable friendly) which is
very time consuming. If possible, I would like the
TXT formatting to be done only after finalization.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default">Thank you for your time.</div>
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