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Bruce,<br>
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The OSI treats all license submitters with dignity and respect, no
matter how frivolous their licenses might be. That's what we did
with the anonymous person who submitted the Vaccine License, one who
took great pains to make it look like a legitimately held belief,
including creating a website. You then participated in the
discussion of the license in the same spirit, treating it as a
legitimate request.<br>
<br>
Where is your email where you withdrew the license because the OSI
didn't get the "prank"? The Vaccine License went to a Board vote on
January 10, 2020:<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">The Vaccine License
<ul>
<li><strong>Motion</strong> (Pam): The Board of the Open Source
Initiative withholds approval of the Vaccine License as an
Open Source Initiative Approved Open Source license.<br>
<strong>Second</strong> (Deb):<br>
<strong>Discussion</strong>: Review of the License Review
committee's decision making and decision.<br>
<strong>Vote</strong>: 9 Yes, 0 No, 0 Abstain</li>
</ul>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.opensource.org/bin/Main/OSI%20Board%20of%20Directors/Board%20minutes/2020/2020-01-10">https://wiki.opensource.org/bin/Main/OSI%20Board%20of%20Directors/Board%20minutes/2020/2020-01-10</a>
<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.opensource.org/pipermail/license-review_lists.opensource.org/2020-January/004645.html">http://lists.opensource.org/pipermail/license-review_lists.opensource.org/2020-January/004645.html</a></p>
<p>You may also recall that once we learned it was you, your "prank"
resulted in your temporary ban from the license-review list as a
violation of the Code of Conduct. I'm glad you now realize that
the joke backfired on you.<br>
</p>
<p>Pam</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/5/2024 10:46 AM, Bruce Perens via
License-discuss wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Well that joke backfired on me, didn't it? I made
a charicture of "ethical" licenses, and ended up withdrawing it
because I was afraid they'd actually approve it! It was meant to
be like a "moot bill". A lot of people did not then, and still
do not get the concept. Silly me for expecting them to. I can't
truly say I regret pranking them, though.
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<div dir="auto">Regarding anonymity, there is little proof of
the identity of many people on this list. Debian always
required that someone meet you and cross-sign your key before
you could check in a package. You can always take charge of
that if you want an effective filter.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Thanks</div>
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<div dir="auto">Bruce</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb 5, 2024, 18:00
McCoy Smith <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mccoy@lexpan.law"><mccoy@lexpan.law></a> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>I agree.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Unfortunately, these sort of
“whimsical,” unserious,
impossible-to-satisfy-the-OSI-definition submissions
are a fairly regular phenomenon these days on the OSI
e-mail lists. I think the submitters who do this were
emboldened by whoever it was that submitted the <a
href="https://blog.opensource.org/licensereview102019/" target="_blank"
rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">Vaccine
License</a> back in 2019. Shame on that person for
starting the trend.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>I think OSI was going to use
the Vaccine License submission and subsequent history
as an example of what people should not be doing (and
probably should also have a policy that potentially
frowns upon anonymized submissions) and put something
about that in the pages on license discussion/review.
Might want to revisit that.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
lang="EN-US"> Bruce Perens <<a
href="mailto:bruce@perens.com" target="_blank"
rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">bruce@perens.com</a>>
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 5, 2024 8:03 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:mccoy@lexpan.law">mccoy@lexpan.law</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a
href="mailto:license-discuss@lists.opensource.org" target="_blank"
rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">license-discuss@lists.opensource.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [License-discuss] License
Review Request - Anu Initiative</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It is a crayon license, and the
author points out its whimsical nature while
wishfully saying the terms bind anyway. There is no
point in passing it on for disapproval or doing
anything else to take it seriously. Just politely
tell the author there isn't a chance.</p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">IMO if you want to help the
open source community, don't draft a new license.
I actually do not see value in even continuing the
approval process at this late date. It's just not
the case that any new submission contributes
useful art.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Bruce</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Feb 5, 2024, 15:52
McCoy Smith <<a href="mailto:mccoy@lexpan.law"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">mccoy@lexpan.law</a>>
wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">And asked for review. Which
he got.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Do you disagree that this
license can’t get OSI approval?</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
lang="EN-US"> Bruce Perens <<a
href="mailto:bruce@perens.com"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">bruce@perens.com</a>>
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 5, 2024
7:47 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a
href="mailto:mccoy@lexpan.law"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">mccoy@lexpan.law</a>;
<a
href="mailto:license-discuss@lists.opensource.org" target="_blank"
rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">license-discuss@lists.opensource.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [License-discuss]
License Review Request - Anu
Initiative</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Note that he sent his
review request to license-discuss.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Feb 5, 2024,
15:45 McCoy Smith <<a
href="mailto:mccoy@lexpan.law"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">mccoy@lexpan.law</a>>
wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Daniel:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-top:12.0pt">In order
to have a license reviewed, you need
to provide the assurances and
information about the license (<a
href="https://opensource.org/licenses/review-process/" target="_blank"
rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://opensource.org/licenses/review-process/</a>)
including that it doesn’t violate
any of the OSD. You have not done
any of that.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-top:12.0pt">Since
Section 4 of this license does
violate OSD 6, it’s not approvable.
So I’d suggest that this license be
forwarded to the Board for denial.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
lang="EN-US">
License-discuss <<a
href="mailto:license-discuss-bounces@lists.opensource.org"
target="_blank"
rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">license-discuss-bounces@lists.opensource.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Daniel
Mihai<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday,
February 3, 2024 10:10 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a
href="mailto:license-discuss@lists.opensource.org" target="_blank"
rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">license-discuss@lists.opensource.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b>
[License-discuss] License
Review Request - Anu
Initiative</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
lang="EN-US">Hi friends,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I hope this
message finds you well and
embracing the natural world with
enthusiasm and care.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I'm reaching
out from the Anu Initiative, a
nonprofit organization rooted in
Dublin, Ireland, with a mission
deeply intertwined with the love
and restoration of our planet.
We are a collective of nature
enthusiasts leveraging
innovative technologies to mend
the environmental scars left by
human activities and certain
technological impacts.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">At Anu
Initiative, we are not just
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you for
considering our request.
Together, we can turn the tide
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