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Can we avoid defining viewpoints by stereotyping? I daresay there
are many people over and under 40 in both the woke and unwoke
categories. Perhaps we can define the category by the belief, not by
the assumed age of the member.<br>
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Pam<br>
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<div class="moz-signature">Pamela Chestek<br>
Chair, License Review Committee<br>
Open Source Initiative</div>
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On 3/11/2020 4:30 PM, Russell McOrmond wrote:<br>
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But I'm talking about going beyond that -- using the Vaccine
License to<br>
explain why we have OSD 5 in the first place, because devs
under 40 do<br>
not believe in the OSD. It needs to be explained. Stay
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<div>I think we have recently seen examples of devs over 40
who don't understand the reasons behind the OSD, whether
from a political/rights perspective or a more practical
software engineering/adoption perspective. I don't think
this is strictly a matter of age.</div>
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<div>Understanding the history of the problems Free Software
and then later Open Source were created to try to solve, and
the compromises that already happened, are critical for
understanding what types of changes will be acceptable and
what is going to be recognised as in opposition.<br>
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<div>It was already a compromise for those of us who were
involved in Free Software movement for human rights/freedoms
(freedom from excessive control by software copyright
owners, and later software patent owners when that harmful
concept was invented) reasons were sceptical of the more
politics-neutral "Open Source" language. There was a need
to explain to us why nothing of the underlying freedom goals
was lost in the adoption of the marketing term "Open Source"
to describe essentially the same thing in a much more
business/success friendly manner. The licenses would be the
same, with the criteria for Open Source being based on the
Debian Free Software Guidelines (DFSG), even if the
organisations created to manage the important brands (FSF
and OSI) might be a different stages of approval processes.</div>
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<div>I became a convert -- until recently I became sceptical
again as people started talking about "being a little bit
more open" as being a relevant goal of Open Source. If
Open Source becomes something entirely different than Free
Software, and the rights/freedom public policy goals are
lost, then we'll splinter into those different camps and I
believe that success for anyone will go out the door.</div>
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<div>Russell McOrmond, Internet Consultant: <<a
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"The government, lobbied by legacy copyright holders and
hardware manufacturers, can pry my camcorder, computer,
home theatre, or portable media player from my cold dead
hands!" <a href="http://c11.ca/own" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://c11.ca/own</a></div>
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