<div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">Widely. Autocorrect fail. <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">But the danger, or damage, is in how the body of licenses affect the interpretation of the OSD.<br><br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">__________________________<br>Van Lindberg<br><a href="mailto:van.lindberg@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">van.lindberg@gmail.com</a><br>m: 214.364.7985</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Feb 8, 2020, 10:55 AM Pamela Chestek <<a href="mailto:pamela@chesteklegal.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">pamela@chesteklegal.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Wisely or widely?</p>
<p>Agree re "widely." Which also means that leaving them alone will
also have little impact.<br>
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<p>Pam<br>
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<pre cols="72">Pamela S. Chestek
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<div>On 2/8/20 9:38 AM, VanL wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">That is a fair concern, but I think it could be
mitigated. As a threshold matter, the licenses I look at as
being possibly worthy of de-classification don't seem to be
wisely used. For those few affected, there could be a
deprecation period, and some of them could be revised.
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<div dir="auto">Thanks,</div>
<div dir="auto">Van<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Feb 8, 2020, 8:28 AM
Pamela Chestek <<a href="mailto:pamela@chesteklegal.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">pamela@chesteklegal.com</a>>
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<p>As suggested, moving to license-discuss.</p>
<p>My concern with delisting is that someone will have
relied on the approval and it would be unfair, and a bad
look for OSI, to suddenly pull the rug out. <br>
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<p>Pam<br>
</p>
<p>Pamela S. Chestek<br>
Chestek Legal<br>
PO Box 2492<br>
Raleigh, NC 27602<br>
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On 2/7/20 5:04 PM, VanL wrote:<br>
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<div>With the mild proviso that this discussion really
should be on license-discuss, I also think a
deprecation committee is a great idea.</div>
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<div>- Van<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at
3:30 PM McCoy Smith <a href="mailto:mccoy@lexpan.law" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"><mccoy@lexpan.law></a>
wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>>>From:</b>
License-review <<a href="mailto:license-review-bounces@lists.opensource.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">license-review-bounces@lists.opensource.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Richard Fontana<br>
<b>>>Sent:</b> Friday, February 7, 2020
1:12 PM<br>
<b>>>To:</b> Eric Schultz <<a href="mailto:eric@wwahammy.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">eric@wwahammy.com</a>><br>
<b>>>Cc:</b> License submissions for OSI
review <<a href="mailto:license-review@lists.opensource.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">license-review@lists.opensource.org</a>><br>
<b>>>Subject:</b> Re: [License-review] For
approval: The Cryptographic Autonomy License
(Beta 4)</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>I
agree with this. I would feel better
if the OSI had some process for
reviewing and potentially delisting or
at least deprecating approved licenses
based on problematic experiences with
a >>license that were not
foreseeable at the time of approval. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>Richard</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I second the idea of a
License Deprecation Committee, a la the
License Proliferation Committee of ’04.
In fact, you could make it a License
Proliferation and Deprecation Committee to
address both issues (assuming there are
people who believe license proliferation
is now a problem).</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Given that there have
been existing licenses on the list that
have been argued as precedent for recent
submissions which were rejected or
opposed, at a minimum there ought to be a
serious look at some of the historical
approvals to test whether those approvals
would survive under current standards. I
can think of at least one license
currently on the list which I’ve looked at
recently where I can’t justify it as
consistent with the OSD (or at least my
understanding thereof) or the approval
process as currently run. That’s not a
situation that I believe ought to exist
and can play into the perception that OSI
approval is inconsistent and/or arbitrary.</p>
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