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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p style='margin-left:.5in'>Roger Fujii wrote:<br>> Now I'm confused. Are you saying there is no "fair use" when the target is software? While one can weaken" fair use" via the license, is this a good idea for OSI to support this?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:windowtext'>Fair use always remains a legitimate defense to copyright infringement. But it is a poor basis for claiming rights to use and distribute software for commercial purposes. There are many limits to fair use that courts will analyze after you admit to infringement. It seldom results in forgiveness.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:windowtext'>/Larry<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='color:windowtext'> License-discuss <license-discuss-bounces@lists.opensource.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Roger Fujii<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 22, 2019 10:17 PM<br><b>To:</b> license-discuss@lists.opensource.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [License-discuss] For Public Comment: The Libre Source License<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>On 8/21/2019 7:33 PM, Lawrence Rosen wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Russell, please clarify something for me about your opinion about copyright policy: Is any license whatsoever required in order for a private party to copy or modify a work of software, that it has obtained somehow, for her own private purposes? Or, in your view, is at least a minimal license required from the author to do those things?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I assume, at least in the US under current law, that software (source code and binary) is copyrightable as a literary work. And therefore, such a copyright is valid also under Berne, even in Canada, despite your wish that software not be copyrightable for private use.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>How can anyone avoid a license for private uses?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>/Larry</span> <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p style='margin-left:.5in'>Now I'm confused. Are you saying there is no "fair use" when the target is software? While one can weaken"fair use" via the license, is this a good idea for OSI to support this?<o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-left:.5in'>Roger Fujii<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>