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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/23/2019 1:23 PM, Lawrence Rosen
wrote:<br>
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<p style="margin-left:.5in">Roger Fujii wrote:<br>
> Now I'm confused. Are you saying there is no "fair
use" when the target is software? While one can weaken" fair
use" via the license, is this a good idea for OSI to support
this?<o:p></o:p></p>
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remains a legitimate defense to copyright infringement. But
it is a poor basis for claiming rights to use and distribute
software for commercial purposes. There are many limits to
fair use that courts will analyze after you admit to
infringement. It seldom results in forgiveness.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>Now I am even more confused. If fair use is a legitimate
defense (one could call this a 'right'), then there must be /some/
modifications that one can make that would be covered by "fair
use" (I know things get complicated when there is any
distribution, so leave that out of the time being). I get your
point that in order to invoke "fair use" that there must be an
infringement first, but I think Russell McOrmond is saying that if
"fair use" would apply, then it should not even be an infringement
in the first place.</p>
<p>Seeing as this is a chicken/egg problem, I think a good way out
is for the people with licenses where this is an issue at least
spell out they they think constitutes "fair use" in regards to the
license or that there are no "fair use" cases, and OSI should come
to a position on "fair use".</p>
<p>Roger Fujii<br>
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