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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Uh, the 17 USC 109 (first sale) case you want there would be Kirtsaeng:<br>
</span><a href="https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/12pdf/11-697_4g15.pdf">https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/12pdf/11-697_4g15.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_____replyseparator"></a><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Alexander Terekhov [mailto:herr.alter@gmail.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 26, 2019 10:05 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> license-discuss@lists.opensource.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Smith, McCoy <mccoy.smith@intel.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [License-discuss] IP licensing: Specific performance (or damages) vs. Infringement - algorithm for (C++) programmers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> or at least cases from the current – or preceding – century. <br>
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My favorite:<br>
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"A purchaser has the right to use, sell, or import an item because those are the rights that come along with ownership, not because it purchased authority to engage in those practices"
<a href="https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/16pdf/15-1189_ebfj.pdf">https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/16pdf/15-1189_ebfj.pdf</a>
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I've been telling it for almost fifteen years, pointing to 17 USC 109 and 17 USC 117 trying to convince people that open source "conditions" are unenforceable under the copyright law.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Am Fr., 26. Juli 2019 um 18:49 Uhr schrieb Smith, McCoy <<a href="mailto:mccoy.smith@intel.com">mccoy.smith@intel.com</a>>:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<h3 style="margin-bottom:7.5pt;line-height:21.6pt;background:#FCFCFC"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-weight:normal">There are two mailing lists:<br>
License Review</span><o:p></o:p></h3>
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<strong><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-weight:normal">Charter:</span></strong><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Reviewing submitted licenses for OSD Compliance and Proliferation concerns (as
described in the <a href="https://opensource.org/approval" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext">Approval Process</span></a>), in order to provide community recommendations to the OSI Board.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-weight:normal">License Discuss</span><o:p></o:p></h3>
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<strong><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-weight:normal">Charter:</span></strong><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Discuss
and answer important questions about Open Source licensing, in order to collect community wisdom for the <a href="https://opensource.org/faq" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext">FAQ</span></a>.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Alexander did post to the latter, which is not limited to currently pending-for-approval licenses.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Whether or not specific performance vs damage is an “important question” in open source, I question, but it would
probably be more useful to the list if those issues were tied to a particular open source license or pending case, or at least cases from the current – or preceding – century.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><a name="m_-809862556277102129______replyseparato"></a><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
License-discuss [mailto:<a href="mailto:license-discuss-bounces@lists.opensource.org" target="_blank">license-discuss-bounces@lists.opensource.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>VanL<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 26, 2019 8:29 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Alexander Terekhov <<a href="mailto:herr.alter@gmail.com" target="_blank">herr.alter@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:license-discuss@lists.opensource.org" target="_blank">
license-discuss@lists.opensource.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [License-discuss] IP licensing: Specific performance (or damages) vs. Infringement - algorithm for (C++) programmers</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hello Alexander,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">It is clear that you have a lot of passion for topics around software licensing, which I certainly won't disagree with. However, it is very difficult to identify your specific points.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">This particular list is for discussion of particular licenses being proposed or evaluated for acceptance by the OSI. You are including long quotes from various decisions, but they
are unmoored from a specific license text. This results in a lot of noise on the list, and distracts from its primary purpose.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I'd request that you address your comments more specifically to license texts that are under discussion, as opposed to the theory of software licensing generally. This would result
in your contributions being much more helpful in the overall debate.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Van<o:p></o:p></p>
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