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    On 6/29/19 9:08 AM, Pamela Chestek wrote:<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/28/19 11:40 PM, Bruce Perens via
        License-discuss wrote:<br>
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            <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF">2.    <u>At what point the licensor
                can oblige licensee behavior</u>. <br>
              The trigger for meeting <span class="gmail-il">license</span> obligations
              can differ across licenses. The most common, almost
              universal trigger, is distribution of software. The AGPL <span
                class="gmail-il">license</span> triggers upon allowing
              network interaction with modified software. The CAL <span
                class="gmail-il">license</span> implements a new
              trigger, which is the obligation to make unmodified
              software available to anyone interacting with an interface
              for the software. In other words, someone might install a
              program that allows for interaction with the website
              (perhaps providing a webform to sign up for a newsletter)
              and would now be obliged to make the source code available
              to any person who filled out the webform. <a
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href="http://lists.opensource.org/pipermail/license-review_lists.opensource.org/2019-May/004113.html"
                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://lists.opensource.org/pipermail/<span
                  class="gmail-il">license</span>-review_lists.opensource.org/2019-May/004113.html</a> The <span
                class="gmail-il">License</span> Review Committee does
              not believe that there has been adequate airing of this
              issue from a variety of viewpoints on the <span
                class="gmail-il">license</span>-review discussion about
              this aspect of the <span class="gmail-il">license</span>,
              so has not reached a conclusion about at what point
              imposing <span class="gmail-il">license</span> obligations
              is appropriate. <br>
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        <div>I'm not sure I agree with the committee here, this is the
          public performance issue and a <i>synthetic </i>public
          performance right exists in an accepted <span class="gmail-il">license</span>.</div>
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    I assume you mean the AGPL, but only if the software has been
    modified. Under the CAL, one cannot simply run the software without
    the licensee having an obligation. Is it a principle of open source
    software that one should be able to simply run software free of any
    obligations?<br>
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    Pam<br>
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    Pamela S. Chestek<br>
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