<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 1:45 PM Pamela Chestek <<a href="mailto:pamela.chestek@opensource.org">pamela.chestek@opensource.org</a>> wrote:</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
I've seen a few people who have said, essentially, "it's a little
rough and tumble, so what, deal with it." But we lose voices that
way. Some people with very smart views don't like confrontation, or
internalize it as an attack. But we need to make room for them too.
I've never heard of a forum where people won't participate because
it's too polite (but I'd be interested to hear if there are any). I
believe an elbows-out style of engagement is to all of our
detriment. We don't need it; calm, rational argument is far more
persuasive than bluster any day.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>The line between passion and rudeness tends to be very subjective, and who is being polite and who is being abusive will be interpreted in part by how much someone agrees with the message being conveyed. Objectivity is a nice ideal, but isn't how humans tend to operate.</div><div><br></div><div>I am someone who avoids participation in forums that focus too much on specific interpretations of a code of conduct, which are themselves used as hammers to reduce participation from passionate people who don't share some perceived 'silent majority' opinion. I don't agree it is a matter of "too polite", and I can easily see calling someone out for suggesting something was absurd is itself impolite.</div><div><br></div><div>While I have been very active in the Free Software movement since the early 1990's, I'm not an active participant in the OSI lists partly because this list gives me the impression the shared political values that made me want to join are no longer the majority.</div><div><br></div></div></div>