<div dir="ltr"><div>It's true that drafting by a lawyer is no guarantee of quality, but I agree with Bruce that writing a legal license *for others to use* is bordering legal advice. It's therefore a necessary minimum requirement.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I don't see an issue with barrier to entry. The OSI already provides an ample menu of approved licenses you can use at no cost. There's no reason why approving new licenses should be zero cost, it certainly isn't for the OSI! Other FOSS foundations also provide high quality pro bono legal advice, it would be clearer if OSI isn't both the prosecutor (or public defender, in Bruce's words) and judge.<br></div><div><br></div><div>henrik<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 12:30 AM Smith, McCoy <<a href="mailto:mccoy.smith@intel.com">mccoy.smith@intel.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Bruce Perens<br>
<b>>>Sent:</b> Friday, March 15, 2019 1:31 PM<br>
<b>>>To:</b> <a href="mailto:license-discuss@lists.opensource.org" target="_blank">license-discuss@lists.opensource.org</a><br>
<b>>>Subject:</b> [License-discuss] The per se license constructor<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">At the risk of arguing against my own interest (I’m a lawyer), requiring a submitter to retain a lawyer in license drafting and/or review is a potential barrier to entry (lawyers being expensive) and could come
across as the process being taken over by lawyers (and possibly even a limited group of lawyers). I’m not sure that helps with the perception issues other are expressing in threads the past few days<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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Drafting or review by a lawyer is no guarantee of quality, and I’d submit that drafting and review by a non-lawyer is not a guarantee of non-quality (pardon the triple negative).<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><br>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><a href="mailto:henrik.ingo@avoinelama.fi" target="_blank">henrik.ingo@avoinelama.fi</a><br>+358-40-5697354 skype: henrik.ingo irc: hingo<br><a href="http://www.openlife.cc" target="_blank">www.openlife.cc</a><br><br>My LinkedIn profile: <a href="http://fi.linkedin.com/pub/henrik-ingo/3/232/8a7" target="_blank">http://fi.linkedin.com/pub/henrik-ingo/3/232/8a7</a></div>