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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Bruce Perens wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>> While Larry is happy to create another license which implements a limited copyleft, the Free Software Foundation's purpose is, of course, Free Software. So, while all manner of things <i>could </i>be done to facilitate addition of proprietary software to software under one of their licenses, they have done what they think is necessary to support that in issuing LGPL and GPL-with-exception, and simply aren't interested in going any farther.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Bless them. Nobody can demand more from a licensor. And yes, Larry is also happy with OSL 3.0.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>The problem is that the GPL licenses aren't the entire story. Please note that the subject of this email includes "SSPL and AGPL". So, although FSF isn't interested, there are many licensees and licensors who are interested in solving this open source licensing problem for networked software.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>The letters "GPL" aren't the entire answer.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>/Larry<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b>From:</b> Bruce Perens <bruce@perens.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 23, 2019 12:30 PM<br><b>To:</b> Lawrence Rosen <lrosen@rosenlaw.com>; license-discuss@lists.opensource.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [License-discuss] Intimacy in open source (SSPL and AGPL)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 12:14 PM Lawrence Rosen <<a href="mailto:lrosen@rosenlaw.com">lrosen@rosenlaw.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Gil Yehuda wrote:<br>> </span><span style='color:black'>I wondered why we don't have an A/LGPL (or A/MPL, A/EPL) that addresses the "non-conveyed software gap" but also limits the scope of copyleft to the work itself.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>We do. OSL 3.0.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>This is missing the point. While Larry is happy to create another license which implements a limited copyleft, the Free Software Foundation's purpose is, of course, Free Software. So, while all manner of things <i>could </i>be done to facilitate addition of proprietary software to software under one of their licenses, they have done what they think is necessary to support that in issuing LGPL and GPL-with-exception, and simply aren't interested in going any farther.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>This is important, because you will have all manner of unfulfilled expectations if you understand licenses, but don't understand the motivations of the people who create them.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'> Thanks<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'> Bruce<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></body></html>