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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>OSD #10 prevents certain kinds of badgeware licenses:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444'>10. License Must Be Technology-Neutral<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:18.75pt;margin-left:.5in;background:#FCFCFC'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444'>No provision of the license may be predicated on any individual technology or style of interface.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:24.0pt;margin-bottom:18.75pt;margin-left:60.0pt;background:#FCFCFC'><b><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444'>Rationale:</span></i></b><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444'> This provision is aimed specifically at licenses which require an explicit gesture of assent in order to establish a contract between licensor and licensee. Provisions mandating so-called "click-wrap" may conflict with important methods of software distribution such as FTP download, CD-ROM anthologies, and web mirroring; such provisions may also hinder code re-use. Conformant licenses must allow for the possibility that <b>(a)</b> redistribution of the software will take place over non-Web channels that do not support click-wrapping of the download, and that <b><span style='background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow'>(b)</span></b><span style='background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow'> the covered code (or re-used portions of covered code) may run in a non-GUI environment that cannot support popup dialogues.</span><o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>/Larry</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b>From:</b> License-discuss <license-discuss-bounces@lists.opensource.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bruce Perens<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 4, 2018 8:22 AM<br><b>To:</b> license-discuss@lists.opensource.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [License-discuss] Open source license with obligation to display an attribution?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Yeah, let's hear the problem statement first.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>There are a few issues with "badgeware", software which requires a web-page acknowledgement: First, it makes a legal requirement for simple use, rather than creation of a derivative work. In general, we don't expect simple users to have read the license at all, or to have access to legal counsel. Second is that badgeware doesn't scale. Debian offers around 25K packages. Thus one could easily see a web page with hundreds of badges, where managing them becomes a serious burden to the user.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'> Thanks<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'> Bruce<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 8:03 AM Chris Lamb <<a href="mailto:chris.lamb@opensource.org">chris.lamb@opensource.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Simon,<br><br>> What I have in mind is for software that is used to drive a web-site, <br>> where we just want to request that a logo with the words "Powered by <br>> ACME technology" is displayed on the website.<br><br>To me, this smells somewhat like an "Xy problem" where one is asking<br>about attempted solution rather than your actual problem.<br><br>What might be more helpful to you and the rest of the community is to<br>learn what you are trying to prevent / ensure by such a request.<br><br><br>Best wishes,<br><br>-- <br>Chris Lamb<br>Open Source Initiative<br>Email: <a href="mailto:chris.lamb@opensource.org" target="_blank">chris.lamb@opensource.org</a><br>Website: <a href="http://www.opensource.org" target="_blank">www.opensource.org</a><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>License-discuss mailing list<br><a href="mailto:License-discuss@lists.opensource.org" target="_blank">License-discuss@lists.opensource.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.opensource.org/mailman/listinfo/license-discuss_lists.opensource.org" target="_blank">http://lists.opensource.org/mailman/listinfo/license-discuss_lists.opensource.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></body></html>