<div dir="ltr">There is no problem if it's a request rather than a requirement. One can hope that scientific ethics applies to the kind of folks who make SAAS out of your software.<div><br></div><div> Thanks</div><div><br></div><div> Bruce</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 11:54 AM <Simon.Cox@csiro.au> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>I guess what we are after is what you have referred to as a 'gesture'. Probably shouldn't have used the term 'obligation' in the subject line - I've been looking at the ODRL model, so am used to thinking in terms of permissions/restrictions/obligations.
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<p>I'm fully aware that - as with pretty much all IP law - enforcement is up to us, so there is always a scalability challenge. But mention within a license at least provides a starting point. In my initial post it appeared that I was jumping to a solution
prior to laying out the requirement, so I attempted to clarify the use-case in a follow-up message.
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<p>What would make our bosses happy (and thus willing to continue to support our contributions) would be: where a site uses our product as the primary basis for a publicly-available service, that a gesture of acknowledgment is publicly-visible. In non-legal
English something like "if you use this software as the primary basis for a service with a publicly visible UI, even if under a new skin, whatever, then please acknowledge us on or around your landing page. Our preference would be that you display [this logo]
with a link to [our webpage]". </p>
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<div>A standard-ish formulation would be nice. <br>
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