<div dir="ltr">It's the former if you're using CC0. The work itself -- in whatever form and whatever the number of copies -- is placed as nearly as possible in the public domain. You could try to enforce a license on a particular copy, but you can't enforce it as a matter of copyright and related rights (as defined in CC0).</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Diane M. Peters<div>General Counsel, Creative Commons<div>Portland, Oregon<br><div><a href="http://creativecommons.org/staff#dianepeters" target="_blank">http://creativecommons.org/staff#dianepeters</a></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">13:00-21:00 UTC</span><br><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 9:12 AM, Lindsay Patten <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:blindsaypatten@gmail.com" target="_blank">blindsaypatten@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Thank you for your quick response!</p>
<p>Can you clarify whether you can you put a copy of a work in the
public domain while maintaining a license on another copy? Or is
it the work itself that is placed in the public domain, and any
ability to enforce copyright on any copies has been surrendered?
My understanding was that works are placed in the public domain
while copies are licensed, and that placing a work in the public
domain renounces any copyright claim you might have on any copies
regardless of what license they may have been previously released
under. You seem to be saying that a particular copy of a work can
be placed in the public domain while other copies remain under
copyright restrictions?<br>
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<p>With regard to bundled exports, it would help me to look at a
concrete case. Say we have an export from MakeHuman that consists
of three files</p>
<p>1) A 3D mesh that was created starting with a 3D mesh that comes
with MakeHuman and transformed by the user using MakeHuman.</p>
<p>2) A meta-data file containing information about the character
and its appearance created by the user using MakeHuman</p>
<p>3) A texture in the form of an image file from the MakeHuman
collection of texture images.</p>
<p>Let's say the user chooses to take the CC0 option. What is the
copyright status of the three files? Are all three files now in
the public domain? Can the user, or a third party use the
individual files without being restricted by the AGPL license that
would apply if the CC0 option hadn't been taken? Or is it only
the particular combination of the three that is in the public
domain while the individual files are still under copyright? If
it is only the combination that is in the public domain, does it
revert to AGPL if you make any modifications?</p>
<p>Thanks again.<br>
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<div class="m_-8766092873362203447moz-cite-prefix">On 2017-10-25 11:04 AM, John Cowan
wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 9:30 AM,
Lindsay Patten <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:blindsaypatten@gmail.com" target="_blank">blindsaypatten@gmail.com</a>></span>
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<p><font size="-2">My understanding of CC0 is that it is
a declaration that you have placed the work in the
public domain, with a fallback license in case the
law in a particular jurisdiction doesn't permit
that. If the user takes the CC0 option, what is the
status of the individual assets that are bundled
into the export? Are they in the public domain or
still copyrighted by the MakeHuman authors?<br>
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<div>Those particular copies are effectively in the public
domain, provided that the MakeHuman folks actually hold
copyright. Third party copyrights are of course
unaffected.</div>
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<p><font size="-2">What I find confusing is whether CC0
is a license that can be applied to a particular
copy of a work,</font></p>
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<div>Every license is applicable only to particular copies.
The self-same bunch of bits may have a commercial license
for one copy that permits certain acts and forbids others,
and a GPL license on another copy which has completely
different conditions from the commercial license. As long
as the licensor is the owner, that's just fine.
SImilarly, bits inside an executable that have been
compiled from a BSD source are (at least arguably) under
the GPL if other bits in the same executable come from
GPLed source.</div>
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<div>John Cowan <a href="http://vrici.lojban.org/%7Ecowan" target="_blank">http://vrici.lojban.org/~cowan</a><wbr>
<a href="mailto:cowan@ccil.org" target="_blank">cowan@ccil.org</a></div>
<div>The whole of Gaul is quartered into three halves.</div>
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