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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hello,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thank you for the answers. It seems that we are concerned even though we don't sell the software provided to the customer.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Apparently, the fact that the customer uses the software from the outside of the company counts as a 'distribution'.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I may submit that topic to our lawyers, but before I have more precise questions related, concerning particular uses of licences, to be sure I
understand them correctly.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">And I agree not to trust 'as is' answers from a mailing list, but it's a good start!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">It seems that Apache, BSD, MIT... licences do not cause particular problems in our context (and in general).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Concerning GPL, I have found in the GPL's FAQ that:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">"The community expects that all code linked to GPL code will be licensed under the GPL, even if the link is made at runtime using a shared library"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Does it means that in that case we should release publicly under the GPL licence any of our source code that use the open source libraries ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If true, does indirect usages are also concerned ? Libraries that call libraries that call open source libraries will also have to be licenced
under the GPL licence ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Concerning LGPL, knowing that the user cannot modify our code as it's proprietary, I understand that using Java libraries for example is not possible
as he must be able to<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">(§ 4 of the LGPL V3 : ) "... recombine or relink the Application with a modified version of the Linked Version to produce a modified Combined
Work".<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">But using Opensource javascript LGPL library without providing source code should be possible if I understand well.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Indeed, if the code using the opensource uses it as a reference to a library on a distant domain, the user can get the benefits of the latest version
of the library used by our code if he wants.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">E.g , if displaydate.js is an open source library released under the LPGP licence, in our code:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><script src="displaydate.js" type="text/javascript"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"></script><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">would be an incorrect usage, whereas:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><script src="http://www.yahoo.com/displaydate.js"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"></script><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">would be a correct usage.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Is it correct ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thank you.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#03365F">Cordialement, Best regards.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#03365F"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#03365F">Etienne<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">De :</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> License-discuss [mailto:license-discuss-bounces@opensource.org]
<b>De la part de</b> Radcliffe, Mark<br>
<b>Envoyé :</b> lundi 28 novembre 2016 22:55<br>
<b>À :</b> license-discuss@opensource.org<br>
<b>Cc :</b> cooi@theiet.org<br>
<b>Objet :</b> Re: [License-discuss] Using opensource in a company not in the software business<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I agree with Ben. Lawyers with open source experience will dramatically decrease your costs. You should also consider consulting Heather Meeker’s
book: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Open-Source-Business-Practical-Licensing/dp/1511617772/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1480369990&sr=8-1&keywords=open+source+for+business+meeker">
https://www.amazon.com/Open-Source-Business-Practical-Licensing/dp/1511617772/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1480369990&sr=8-1&keywords=open+source+for+business+meeker</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> License-discuss [<a href="mailto:license-discuss-bounces@opensource.org">mailto:license-discuss-bounces@opensource.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ben Tilly<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 28, 2016 11:44 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> License Discuss<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cooi@theiet.org">cooi@theiet.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [License-discuss] Using opensource in a company not in the software business<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Nigel's list is biased towards paranoia. Paranoia is a healthy default But it is OK, for example, to ship useful standalone GPL tools to customers in a zip file that happens to also contain proprietary code of yours
that does not use those tools.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">As always, if in doubt you should consult a lawyer and the license. And don't rely on opinions from a mailing list.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">One final note, I would recommend that it may be worth your while to find a lawyer with open source experience, and not just familiarity with intellectual property. Open source licenses are somewhat unusual, and there
are common misunderstandings around, for instance, how the GPL works that a general lawyer is likely to spend time working through the first time. (Is this a contract? Does it apply if it is not a contract?) While lawyers are generally happy to research
things on your dime, this is not always an efficient use of your money...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 9:29 AM, Tzeng, Nigel H. <<a href="mailto:Nigel.Tzeng@jhuapl.edu" target="_blank">Nigel.Tzeng@jhuapl.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Cindy advice is best but the quick and dirty answer for you given the two things you stated:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif"">We do not modify or enhance the open source code of the used libraries.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3">
<span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard","serif"">At last, our code must be kept as proprietary and we don’t consider providing the source code using the opens source libraries.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Good: Apache, BSD, MIT and other permissively licensed open source code. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Maybe Good: LGPL, MPL and weak copyleft licensed open source code.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Not Good: GPL and any strong copyleft licensed open source code.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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server if you used any AGPL code it may be an issue.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Reply-To: </b>"<a href="mailto:cooi@theiet.org" target="_blank">cooi@theiet.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:cooi@theiet.org" target="_blank">cooi@theiet.org</a>>, License Discuss <<a href="mailto:license-discuss@opensource.org" target="_blank">license-discuss@opensource.org</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, November 28, 2016 at 7:51 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>License Discuss <<a href="mailto:license-discuss@opensource.org" target="_blank">license-discuss@opensource.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [License-discuss] Using opensource in a company not in the software business<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">You _are_ in the software business.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">As Woolley said, regardless of which the license of the software you choose uses, you still have responsibility under
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">On 28 November 2016 at 10:23, FREJAVILLE Etienne <<a href="mailto:etienne.frejaville@coface.com" target="_blank">etienne.frejaville@coface.com</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">Hello,</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">I'm sorry for asking a question that has probably been answered in the past, but I couldn't find a clear and precise answer on the subject
on your website or any web resource.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">We are a private company and we wonder how to deal with developments using open source.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">First of all we are not a software company, and therefore we just provide software applications to our customers, so that they can use our
services/buy our products.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">We develop with code that may use opensource, both:</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">- 1. Pure internal software</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">- 2. Software for our customers provided as Web applications (that obviously interacts with a part of our internal software).</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">- 3. Software for our customers provided as mobile applications (IOS&Android apps) that interacts with a part of our internal software.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">The usage we make of opensource, is either use the opensource products as standalone products (e.g Maven, Kados..), or use them ‘as is’ as
libraries (most java or javascript) (e.g POI, jQuery...).</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">We do not modify or enhance the open source code of the used libraries.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">At last, our code must be kept as proprietary and we don’t consider providing the source code using the opens source libraries.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">I have read quite a few pages on the
<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__opensource.org&d=CwMGaQ&c=3wvJ0zJmnOH4EwE3NZ_dojrpL7MAvp0sk6CwidQglYA&r=jdsm-qkq-Mk027Redh3Cbs2iQvbzFXesOa4hf4yZVks&m=mb6Xv_IQ0-9vyxXoreSfoPx986ZZ17jIvvSEeZzr_m0&s=cW_7dVP6ausJzvov6lbFHOGhMdXgxspnB24JX4mlUFU&e=" target="_blank">
opensource.org</a> website, the FAQ and other external papers, but it seems that the licences discussions and restrictions, concern most of the time the usage of the open source in commercial products, or concern the distribution of open sources modifications.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">First of all, I would like to know if a software provided to our customers in our case, is considered in the open source terminology as a
'customer product'.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">Second, I would like to understand what 'distribution' stands for. Is distributing a web application or mobile application considered 'distribution'
?</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">We provide some binary code that may contain usages of open source libraries, to some of our subsidiaries. Is it also considered as 'distribution'
?</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">The idea behind these questions is to know if in fact we have to care about using Open source software or not in our situation..</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">If indeed we provide a commercial product and we are considering distributing software that may require the usage of opensource libraries
for being able to work, indeed, I guess we are concerned by Open source usage.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">If it's the case, I will have more precise questions regarding the usage we make of these libraries, to understand what licences we may use
and what we may not.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">Thank you.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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