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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Simon Phipps wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>> </span>Mind you, OSI has described itself as a standards body for open source licenses <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> for a long time, see <a href="http://opensource.org/about">http://opensource.org/about</a> (I believe that text used to be<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> on the home page).<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Perhaps, but that term has thus been misused. There is absolutely nothing about OSI – its governance policies, its procedures, its membership rules, its board selections, or its activities – that would in any sense qualify OSI as a standards organization.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I'm not quarreling with OSI's attempt to get everyone to use <u>approved</u> licenses, but I have long challenged your attempts to steer people toward some subset of those licenses. Especially if you hint that they are in any way, shape or form "standard" licenses. That's overreach for which you are not legally qualified.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>/Larry<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Lawrence Rosen<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Rosenlaw & Einschlag (<a href="http://www.rosenlaw.com/"><span style='color:#0563C1'>www.rosenlaw.com</span></a>) <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>3001 King Ranch Road, Ukiah, CA 95482<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Cell: 707-478-8932 Fax: 707-485-1243<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Simon Phipps [mailto:simon@webmink.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, April 27, 2014 8:44 PM<br><b>To:</b> license-discuss@opensource.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [License-discuss] FAQ entry (and potential website page?) on "why standard licenses"?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>I don't think that's the point of the entry Luis is constructing. He's using the word "standardized" as a term of speech rather than as a technical term. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Mind you, OSI has described itself as a standards body for open source licenses for a long time, see <a href="http://opensource.org/about">http://opensource.org/about</a> (I believe that text used to be on the home page).<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>S.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Lawrence Rosen <<a href="mailto:lrosen@rosenlaw.com" target="_blank">lrosen@rosenlaw.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal>How about "OSI Approved" license? That's what you do. <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br>Simon Phipps <<a href="mailto:webmink@opensource.org" target="_blank">webmink@opensource.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Care to propose an improvement?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 7:37 PM, <a href="mailto:lrosen@rosenlaw.com" target="_blank">lrosen@rosenlaw.com</a> <<a href="mailto:lrosen@rosenlaw.com" target="_blank">lrosen@rosenlaw.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>"Standard" is a loaded term. Licenses are not standards and OSI is not a standards organization. Larry<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>-------- Original message --------<br>From: Luis Villa <br>Date:04/27/2014 6:11 PM (GMT-08:00) <br>To: License Discuss <br>Subject: [License-discuss] FAQ entry (and potential website page?) on "why standard licenses"? <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Hi, all-<br><br>A few of us were talking and realized the FAQ/website have nothing to explain why *using standard licenses* is a good idea. This being a sort of basic point, I started remedying the problem :) <br><br>Draft FAQ entry addressing the question is here: <a href="http://wiki.opensource.org/bin/Projects/Why+standardized+licensing%3F" target="_blank">http://wiki.opensource.org/bin/Projects/Why+standardized+licensing%3F</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>There is also an incomplete potential more-than-FAQ answer that could be put somewhere on <a href="http://opensource.org" target="_blank">opensource.org</a>. The more I think about it, the more I think the FAQ may be sufficient, but I'd be curious what others here think and whether something longer is worthwhile.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Feedback is probably better on-wiki but the list is fine too. :)<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Luis<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div></body></html>