Many thanks for the reply. That's an interesting suggestion.<br>On the other hand, I'm a bit worried that these short form names don't appear anywhere on <a href="http://opensource.org">opensource.org</a>.<br>Any chances OSI could add them to <a href="http://www.opensource.org/licenses/alphabetical" target="_blank">http://www.opensource.org/licenses/alphabetical</a> ? i.e. after the license name, have "(short-form = XXX)"<br>
That would eliminate the reliance on another party that might diverge or just not be updated when there is a license added by OSI.<br>I know this creates an admin burden, but given these guys seems to have done most of the legwork, I think it would actually be a worthy addition to OSI's offering (small, but with value).<br>
(should I send this request to another particular group? I'm hoping OSI folks are reading this list...)<br><br>Thanks,<br><br clear="all">-mathieu<br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 12:09, David Dillard <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:david_dillard@symantec.com">david_dillard@symantec.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">You might try using the short form identifiers for licenses as found in the SPDX spec (see Appendix I).</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><a href="http://spdx.org/system/files/spdx-v1beta.draft20100807_1.pdf" target="_blank">http://spdx.org/system/files/spdx-v1beta.draft20100807_1.pdf</a></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<div style="border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(181, 196, 223) -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> Mathieu Gervais (IDEAS) [mailto:<a href="mailto:Mathieu.Gervais@morganstanley.com" target="_blank">Mathieu.Gervais@morganstanley.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 18, 2011 9:14 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:license-discuss@opensource.org" target="_blank">license-discuss@opensource.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Unique identifier for licenses</span></p></div>
<div><div></div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal">Hi,<br><br>We are improving internal tooling to keep track of open source libraries licenses.<br>What do you recommend in order to uniquely identify licenses?<br>
<br>We want to leverage OSI's catalogue of licenses in order to not reinvent the wheel, but it doesn't look like a slam dunk since the naming is not that consistent.<br>For example, for BSD the name seen on these 2 pages is different: </p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"> <a href="http://www.opensource.org/licenses/alphabetical" target="_blank">http://www.opensource.org/licenses/alphabetical</a></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <a href="http://www.opensource.org/licenses/bsd-license" target="_blank">http://www.opensource.org/licenses/bsd-license</a><br>
(I prefer the one on the alphabetical list, since it does hint which flavor of BSD we are talking about -- "new and simplified").<br><br>So the question is, what would be the best/recommended (short) identifier that is likely to stay stable?<br>
I see the following choices:<br> a) name as listed on <a href="http://www.opensource.org/licenses/alphabetical" target="_blank">http://www.opensource.org/licenses/alphabetical</a><br> b) name as listed on the license page itself: e.g. <a href="http://www.opensource.org/licenses/bsd-license" target="_blank">http://www.opensource.org/licenses/bsd-license</a></p>
<div style="margin-left: 24pt;"><p class="MsoNormal"> ( this seems a non starter given that not all page have the same format, some of them have the license name written as "Open Source Initiative OSI -<i> license name</i>:Licensing" (see bsd), some have just the license name (e.g. AGPL)</p>
</div><p class="MsoNormal"> c)use the short name in the url of the license itself, i.e.: </p><div style="margin-left: 24pt;"><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.opensource.org/licenses/" target="_blank">http://www.opensource.org/licenses/</a><b>bsd-license => use license name="bsd-license"</b></p>
</div><div style="margin-left: 24pt;"><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.opensource.org/licenses/" target="_blank">http://www.opensource.org/licenses/</a><b>mit-license => use license name="mit-license"</b></p>
</div><div style="margin-left: 24pt;"><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.opensource.org/licenses/" target="_blank">http://www.opensource.org/licenses/</a><b>gpl-2.0</b> <b> => use license name="gpl-2.0"</b></p>
</div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><br>Although we could use full URLs, I'd prefer using a short, meaningful name. (the full URL would really amount to option c anyway).<br><br>I'm not going to hold it against you if this ever changes, but I'd like to know that I at least have a shot at using something that is likely to be <i>relatively </i>stable for the foreseeable future.<br>
It also seems to me adding this to the FAQ could make sense since I'm certainly not the only one trying to refer to licenses in your catalogue.<br><br>I understand this is a bit nitpicking, but since we are doing this, we might as well try to do it right. <br>
<br>Let me know if my question is not clear and thanks in advance for your help.<br><span style="color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"><br clear="all">-mathieu<br></span><br>PS: ultimately we <i>do </i>store and refer to the actual license txt included in the distribution of each library, but this is for the purpose of categorization in our internal repository.</p>
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