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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><FONT face=Arial>></FONT>Russ Nelson writes:</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<P><FONT size=2>>Russ Nelson writes:<BR> >> The problem, Chris, is that you are a frigging idiot. I have put up<BR> >> with your nonsense and uselessness lo these many months simply because<BR> >> you haven't gone over the edge into stupidity. You just have.<BR><BR>>I must apologize to Chris, as I have engendered a fallacy. I have<BR>>called him an idiot, whereas I should have said that his postings were<BR>>idiotic, useless, pointless, and a complete waste of everyone's time.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2>What you deserve is a reprimand, probation or removal based on OSI mailing list code of conduct for </FONT><FONT size=2>failing the civility criteria. That was one weak apology. </FONT><FONT size=2>I don't know who Chris is, nor do I really care, but slamming him a second time in an "apology" really takes the cake. </FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2>How about owning up to your mistake and unbanning him rather than crowing about the "blessed silence"?</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT size=2><BR>> But I should also note that, while Chris remains blocked, this is my<BR>> own personal action, and is not the result of an official OSI board<BR>> action. For the most part, OSI doesn't interfere with my operation of<BR>> their mailing lists. I hope that will continue.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2>Given that you admit he hasn't been given a reprimand or probation prior to removal for not glaringly violating the code of conduct (but managing to do so spectacularly yourself) perhaps the OSI <STRONG>should</STRONG> review how the mailing list is run. </P>
<DIV></FONT><FONT size=2><A href="http://opensource.org/node/231">http://opensource.org/node/231</A></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Unfortunately, I make that suggestion rather weakly given that I'm am unable to also volunteer at the same time but I now wonder why the OSI even bothered with a mailing list code of conduct. Did you even read the thing?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>>"Compel" is such an ugly word. While governments may have a monopoly<BR>>on legitimate violence, violence is not the only way to change<BR>>people's behavior. The one way is to persuade them. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>The other way is to just ban them without warning when they annoy you because you have the power to do so and they are powerless to stop you.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>And a Happy New Year to you too buddy...what a wonderfully non-violent way to spread the holiday cheer.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Nigel</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>