<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 9/30/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Philippe Verdy</b> <<a href="mailto:verdy_p@wanadoo.fr">verdy_p@wanadoo.fr</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I'm seeing a huge difference between "this products runs on Windows" and<br>"this product runs on a Microsoft platform". </blockquote><div><br>The only difference I can see is the question of specificity. Frankly neither one is terribly specific and is probably not meaningful.
<br><br>Do you see this same difference in "LedgerSMB runs on Windows Vista" and "LedgerSMB runs on Microsoft Windows VIsta?" If so, I think I want whatever you are smoking ;-)<br> </div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
The former is certainly more<br>defendable, given the Microsoft provides kits to build products running on<br>that platform and licences Windows (for this reason, Microsoft has chosen to<br>be liberal here by allowing references to Windows, but defined a "logo"
<br>program requiring additional licence for those that use specific forms of<br>referencing it).</blockquote><div><br><br>Can you show my *any* cases where mere statements of product compatibility can be absolutely controlled by a company whether or not the corporate name is mentioned? This is not the same as the logo program.
<br><br>BTW, I have seen licenses that raised the sorts of concerns you make, particularly those licenses which require the use of a trademark in derivative works, but I really don't see how they apply here. So far, we have heard even from EU-based trademark lawyers that nominative fair use would appear to apply to these simple statements of fact. Furthermore the same arguments can be made about the 3-clause BSD license on the OSI site.
<br><br>We should be in the business of approving licenses, not approving submitters of licenses. If this is a concern worthy of barring the approval of the Microsoft licenses, we should drop the approval of the New BSD license on the site. I dont think it is such an issue though.
<br><br>Best Wishes,<br>Chris Travers<br></div></div><br>