Wanted the close the loop and thank license-discuss and OSI for the approval of the Common Public Attribution License. Now that we have Socialtext has followed the process, we are adopting CPAL and are OSI-Certified and genuinely Open Source. If our license wasn't approved, we would have selected an OSI-Certified license less optimal for our products. And since it was, other products can choose this path, and my hope is CPAL will grow our community.
<br><br>Dan Bricklin has written a great guide for those considering adopting CPAL for their own projects:<br><br><a href="https://www.socialtext.net/open/index.cgi?how_to_apply_the_cpal_to_your_product">https://www.socialtext.net/open/index.cgi?how_to_apply_the_cpal_to_your_product
</a><br><br>Again, thank you to those who participated in the process. Even though we might not have agreed, I am pleased with the outcome of the text and know most of you are. I look forward to contributing to future discussions.
<br><br>Ross<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 7/30/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Michael Tiemann</b> <<a href="mailto:tiemann@opensource.org">tiemann@opensource.org</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I have no idea why this never made it to the reflector. I'll try sending again.<br><br>M<br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: Michael Tiemann <<a href="mailto:tiemann@opensource.org">tiemann@opensource.org
</a>><br>Date: Jul 27, 2007 1:43 AM<br>Subject: OSI approves CPAL at OSCON 2007<br>To: <a href="mailto:license-discuss@opensource.org">license-discuss@opensource.org</a><br><br><br>I wish that Russ Nelson or I would have been the first to be able to
<br>report the results of the board meetings held at OSCON this week. The<br>schedule of our activities was posted on our wiki, but that schedule<br>did not necessarily tell the whole story of our busy time in Portland.<br>
Between the 6 hour work session Sunday, the 10+ hour board meeting<br>Monday, programming and presentations Tue-Thu, the hour-long BOF on<br>Tuesday, the 2+ hour BOF on Wednesday night, and 16+ hours of booth<br>duty (usually attended by at least 2 OSI board members, and which
<br>helped the OSI raise approximately $4000 from approximately 200<br>conference attendees), there has been a lot to juggle. Not to mention<br>the challenge of coordinating 8 different board members staying in 8<br>different hotels, working for 8 different companies, each of which are
<br>demanding lots of attention when we're not attending OSI-related<br>meetings. I now have time to write this email because OSCON 2007 is<br>over for me, and I have a few hours before I need to wake up and catch<br>
an early morning flight to my next destination.<br><br>In Monday's board meeting the topic of whether to approve the CPAL was<br>considered. We took the advice of the License Approval Chair, which<br>was to approve the CPAL. We know that there was not 100% consensus
<br>among those who subscribe to license-discuss, but we felt that there<br>was reasonable consensus that the safe harbor of the license was<br>sufficiently broad to meet the requirements of the OSD and therefore<br>approve the license. Whereas there was significant and broad
<br>consensus *against* the predecessor version, the response by many to<br>the current version was a stark contrast that we read as general<br>acceptance. In the course of taking that recommendation, which I<br>agreed with, I observed what I considered to be a mismatch between the
<br>text of the license and the intentions discussed, debated, and before<br>us to approve.<br><br>I suggested that it would be better to correct the error in the<br>license as long as such correction did not in any way affect the
<br>substance of the discussion of that license. If the error had in any<br>way violated the OSD, I would have sent the license back to the review<br>process, as I did when the SimPL license was (erroneously) submitted<br>
with incorrect text. But this error related to a potential for<br>confusion where none need exist, in a license whose terms were<br>otherwise recommended for approval. I thought it better to make a<br>change and approve a license with less potential for confusion than to
<br>approve the license and deal later with the confusion, or force yet<br>another delay on an already long-delayed process simply to recount<br>votes that had already been cast. The board discussed this and<br>agreed.<br>
<br>In the middle of all this, I was lobbied by a third party attending<br>OSCON to make additional changes that would have altered the substance<br>of the license, I said "no, we're not going to consider changing the
<br>conditions of the bargain--we're only going to consider corrections to<br>the text to reflect the bargain that was discussed." I further<br>explained that if the person's proposed change was not enough to
<br>change consensus on license-discuss (to which he had posted his<br>suggestion to no avail), private lobbying wasn't going to get me to<br>suggest a private amendment to the licenseas a requirement for<br>approval. The community had been consulted, and its stance on that
<br>issue as well as the overall substance, which was not a unanimous<br>stance, was clear.<br><br>If the board were more efficient in conducting its business, perhaps<br>we would have time to check and re-check every submission while still
<br>providing tolerable turn-around. The board certainly values the<br>advice that the License Approval Committee provides to us--it is<br>advice we take very seriously and it is advice that helps us greatly<br>to define and communicate our statements about the licenses submitted
<br>to us. Even when a license is clearly OSD-compliant or clearly not<br>OSD-compliant, we are happy that there are "many eyes" reading along<br>with us, making the work both easier and more certain. But it is an
<br>advisory role, and ultimately it is up to the Board to discern what<br>and how much of that advice to take, not unlike a maintainer reading<br>comments from other reviewers before committing a patch in modified or<br>
unmodified form. And in this case, we took that advice (which was not<br>unanimous), accepted a change we considered to be an improvement in<br>clarity but not a change in substance, and approved the license.<br><br>I look forward to getting our minutes published and I look forward to
<br>answering any other questions anybody on this list may have for me,<br>either in public email or privately. This situation is not the<br>Board's preferred way to do things, but the Board does prefer to do<br>things it considers responsible compared to doing nothing because it
<br>lacks any confidence whatsoever in its own ability to act responsibly.<br> In this circumstance we felt it better to act than to wait (or, more<br>accurately, more harmful to wait than to act).<br><br>Some of you have already expressed your strong disagreement with our
<br>decision, and you, too, are entitled to your opinion. But know this:<br>the board does value your opinion, and we hope that you will continue<br>to provide it, both when you agree and when you disagree with our<br>policies, procedures, and decisions. And the board takes very
<br>seriously its responsibility for serving the communities of<br>developers, users, and other stakeholders who want to see more people<br>benefiting from more open source software, software that fulfills the<br>promise of the OSD.
<br><br>The next OSI Board meeting is scheduled for August 11th, and it will<br>likely be at 11AM EDT (8AM PDT). If you would like to attend (by<br>conference call), send me an email and I'll work out how to get you<br>
dialed in. If you'd like to address the board, I'll create time on<br>the schedule for that.<br><br>M<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>--<br>Ross Mayfield<br>CEO & Co-founder<br>Socialtext
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