[License-discuss] License Review Request - Anu Initiative

[Bruce Perens]

P.S. You must agree: a vaccine license in 2019 was prescient.

On Mon, Feb 5, 2024, 18:46 Bruce Perens <bruce at perens.com> wrote:

> Well that joke backfired on me, didn't it? I made a charicture of
> "ethical" licenses, and ended up withdrawing it because I was afraid they'd
> actually approve it! It was meant to be like a "moot bill". A lot of people
> did not then, and still do not get the concept. Silly me for expecting them
> to. I can't truly say I regret pranking them, though.
>
> Regarding anonymity, there is little proof of the identity of many people
> on this list. Debian always required that someone meet you and cross-sign
> your key before you could check in a package. You can always take charge of
> that if you want an effective filter.
>
> Thanks
>
> Bruce
>
> On Mon, Feb 5, 2024, 18:00 McCoy Smith <mccoy at lexpan.law> wrote:
>
>> I agree.
>>
>> Unfortunately, these sort of “whimsical,” unserious,
>> impossible-to-satisfy-the-OSI-definition submissions are a fairly regular
>> phenomenon these days on the OSI e-mail lists. I think the submitters who
>> do this were emboldened by whoever it was that submitted the Vaccine
>> License <https://blog.opensource.org/licensereview102019/> back in 2019.
>> Shame on that person for starting the trend.
>>
>> I think OSI was going to use the Vaccine License submission and
>> subsequent history as an example of what people should not be doing (and
>> probably should also have a policy that potentially frowns upon anonymized
>> submissions) and put something about that in the pages on license
>> discussion/review. Might want to revisit that.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Bruce Perens <bruce at perens.com>
>> *Sent:* Monday, February 5, 2024 8:03 AM
>> *To:* mccoy at lexpan.law
>> *Cc:* license-discuss at lists.opensource.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [License-discuss] License Review Request - Anu Initiative
>>
>>
>>
>> It is a crayon license, and the author points out its whimsical nature
>> while wishfully saying the terms bind anyway. There is no point in passing
>> it on for disapproval or doing anything else to take it seriously. Just
>> politely tell the author there isn't a chance.
>>
>>
>>
>> IMO if you want to help the open source community, don't draft a new
>> license. I actually do not see value in even continuing the approval
>> process at this late date. It's just not the case that any new submission
>> contributes useful art.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 5, 2024, 15:52 McCoy Smith <mccoy at lexpan.law> wrote:
>>
>> And asked for review. Which he got.
>>
>> Do you disagree that this license can’t get OSI approval?
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Bruce Perens <bruce at perens.com>
>> *Sent:* Monday, February 5, 2024 7:47 AM
>> *To:* mccoy at lexpan.law; license-discuss at lists.opensource.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [License-discuss] License Review Request - Anu Initiative
>>
>>
>>
>> Note that he sent his review request to license-discuss.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 5, 2024, 15:45 McCoy Smith <mccoy at lexpan.law> wrote:
>>
>> Daniel:
>>
>> In order to have a license reviewed, you need to provide the assurances
>> and information about the license (
>> https://opensource.org/licenses/review-process/) including that it
>> doesn’t violate any of the OSD. You have not done any of that.
>>
>> Since Section 4 of this license does violate OSD 6, it’s not approvable.
>> So I’d suggest that this license be forwarded to the Board for denial.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* License-discuss <license-discuss-bounces at lists.opensource.org> *On
>> Behalf Of *Daniel Mihai
>> *Sent:* Saturday, February 3, 2024 10:10 AM
>> *To:* license-discuss at lists.opensource.org
>> *Subject:* [License-discuss] License Review Request - Anu Initiative
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi friends,
>>
>>
>>
>> I hope this message finds you well and embracing the natural world with
>> enthusiasm and care.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm reaching out from the Anu Initiative, a nonprofit organization rooted
>> in Dublin, Ireland, with a mission deeply intertwined with the love and
>> restoration of our planet. We are a collective of nature enthusiasts
>> leveraging innovative technologies to mend the environmental scars left by
>> human activities and certain technological impacts.
>>
>>
>>
>> At Anu Initiative, we are not just another entity in the environmental
>> sphere. We diverge from the conventional path of carbon credits, focusing
>> instead on tangible ecological contributions. Our open-source platform
>> epitomizes transparency, allowing anyone to witness the journey of every
>> contribution made towards a greener tomorrow.
>>
>>
>>
>> As we continue to weave technology with nature's restoration, we are
>> reviewing our Open License Agreement to ensure it aligns with our core
>> values of Transparency, Passion, Integrity, Commitment, and Community. Your
>> expertise and insights would be invaluable in this process.
>>
>>
>>
>> Could you please review our agreement?
>> https://forum.anuinitiative.org/t/anu-initiative-open-license-agreement-ai-ola/80
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you for considering our request. Together, we can turn the tide
>> towards a sustainable future.
>>
>>
>>
>> Warm regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> *Daniel Mihai*
>>
>> Founder and CTO
>>
>>
>>
>> *Mobile:* +353 (0) 87 450 8112
>> *E-mail:* daniel at anuinitiative.org
>>
>> *Web-site:* https://anuinitiative.org
>>
>>
>> *Let’s take the initiative!*
>>
>>
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