[License-discuss] [License-review] For approval: The Cryptographic Autonomy License (Beta 2)

[Henrik Ingo]

Bruce

On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 6:01 AM Bruce Perens via License-review <
license-review at lists.opensource.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 3:08 PM VanL <van.lindberg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I am a supporter of the OSI. I think the OSI is important, and that it
>> serves an important function. But I can also see that some people are
>> already choosing to bypass the OSI for various reasons.
>>
>
> This is as it should be.
>
> The OSD is more than two decades old, Free Software is much older, and it
> may be that there is some new revolution, with a new definition, that
> superscedes them. Even if that happens, the Open Source brand will continue
> to have value because it does a good job of identifying what a license does
> and doesn't do, and provides a paradigm for sharing that has been
> astronomically successful and shows no sign that it will diminish.
>
>
I was expecting you to also say that "we can't give FSF monopoly to decide
the boundaries of copyleft" and "OSI was founded to be inclusive also to
the needs of commercial companies". Surely this omission was just an error?

You opposing CAL is fully ok. It's even expected as you some time ago
stated that the world needs only 3 open source licenses and by implication
all new licenses can safely be rejected.

But agreeing with Bradley that a new license must be discussed 5 years
before it can be submitted to the OSI would indeed make OSI irrelevant. The
OSI needs to do it's job or just shut down. By the time a final decision on
CAL is reached, the discussion will have lasted a year, and about a
thousand emails written. Suggesting that this process isn't taking the open
source brand or the freedoms of the community seriously, is unfounded and
just a tactical move on your part.



> Let's remember that 2007 comment about how irrelevant OSI and the OSD were
> about to become:
>
> *Badgeware is certainly not going away, and my fear is that if the OSI
> chooses to ignore it, or worse, refuses to approve the licenses, they will
> find themselves as irrelevant as the UN in short time. *(
> http://www.royrusso.com/blog/2007/01/11/badgeware-and-open-source/).
>
>
> Where is badgeware now? I could only find that MongoDB was using the
> license in question, and even they appear to have moved on.
>
>
In your previous email on the topic you mentioned Mulesoft using CPAL.
MongoDB has never used the CPAL and given that their open source products
don't even have a GUI it would be an odd license choice.

henrik
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