[License-discuss] [Non-DoD Source] Re: U.S. Army Research Laboratory Open Source License (ARL OSL) Version 0.4.1

Stephen Michael Kellat smkellat at yahoo.com
Mon Feb 27 20:37:48 UTC 2017


The problem is that I do get around a lot and have done work for a surprising number of people over the past couple of years.  I do kinda get lost remembering whose hat I'm wearing.  On occasion I meddle in tax law at work having to help taxpayers figure things out.  Disclaimers like that are the price I pay for having a pay check working for the US Treasury.  

Of course, while everybody was responding I was having a lovely chat with the Office of Special Counsel about the Hatch Act on my day off.  I have to get back to drafting an OSC-13 referral.

On Mon, 27 Feb 2017 11:57:03 -0800
"Lawrence Rosen" <lrosen at rosenlaw.com> wrote:

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Michael Kellat [mailto:smkellat at yahoo.com] 
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 11:11 AM
> To: license-discuss at opensource.org
> Cc: lrosen at rosenlaw.com; license-discuss at opensource.org
> Subject: Re: [License-discuss] [Non-DoD Source] Re: U.S. Army Research
> Laboratory Open Source License (ARL OSL) Version 0.4.1
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> I am off-duty from my job over at Treasury today so I guess I can say
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