[License-discuss] [Non-DoD Source] Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: U.S. Army Research Laboratory Open Source License (ARL OSL) 0.4.0

[Brian Behlendorf]

Do those follow the same rules as copyright?  E.g., when done by a USG 
employee, it's public domain in the US?

Seems like those should get covered by whatever folks come up with.

Brian

On Fri, 19 Aug 2016, Smith, McCoy wrote:
> Yes
> USG files patents all the time
>
>> On Aug 18, 2016, at 5:51 PM, Brian Behlendorf <brian at behlendorf.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Totally agree.  But can the USG file patents?  I suppose research organizations can (MITRE, maybe even NASA?) so it's not that academic; but presumably any place where this public domain arises, it applies to patents too.  Would be nice to get that sorted.
>>
>> Brian
>>
>>> On Thu, 18 Aug 2016, Chris DiBona wrote:
>>> In military contracting , patent grants are key to the point where I wouldn't consider a non patent granting license from, say, lockheed as being open source at all.
>>> On Aug 18, 2016 3:05 PM, "Tzeng, Nigel H." <Nigel.Tzeng at jhuapl.edu> wrote:
>>>      On 8/18/16, 3:57 PM, "License-discuss on behalf of Lawrence Rosen"
>>>      <license-discuss-bounces at opensource.org on behalf of lrosen at rosenlaw.com>
>>>      wrote:
>>>
>>>     >Nigel Tzeng wrote:
>>>     >> The issue here is for code that is potentially quite substantial.  I
>>>     >>would think that would be a different scenario.
>>>     >
>>>     >If I include the works of Shakespeare in my software, it would of course
>>>     >be substantial and yet still be public domain almost everywhere (?).
>>>
>>>      If patents aren't a concern then okay.  Copyright lasts longer than
>>>      patents so for anything that is in the public domain because of age then
>>>      no patents would still apply.
>>>
>>>      There isn¹t a lot of code that has aged out.  Only code written between
>>>      before 1963 and didn¹t get a renewal.
>>>
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