[License-discuss] OSI license issue: Artistic license

[Jilayne Lovejoy]

(including thread below for reference)

Hi All,

Version 1.19 of the SPDX License List was released a couple weeks ago and includes the changes regarding the Artistic License as discussed below.  That is, there are now three variations of Artistic License v1.10 on the SPDX License LIst, as follows:

1) Artistic License 1.0				Artistic-1.0	
2) Artistic License 1.0 w/clause 8	Artistic-1.0-cl8
- these two cover the two variations on the OSI website, with and without clause 8 at: http://opensource.org/licenses/Artistic-1.0

3) Artistic License 1.0 (Perl)		Artistic-1.0-Perl
- which matches the text found here: http://dev.perl.org/licenses/artistic.html

The OSI site on the main Artistic-1.0 page (http://opensource.org/licenses/Artistic-1.0) states at the top:
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With this clause present, it is called the Artistic License (Perl) 1.0 (abbreviated as Artistic-Perl-1.0. With or without this clause, the license is approved by OSI for certifying software as OSI Certified Open Source.

One such example is the Artistic License (Perl) 1.0.

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The OSI link to Artistic-Perl-1.0 (http://opensource.org/licenses/Artistic-Perl-1.0) does NOT match the text that is at the Perl link, hence the third variation.  

To avoid confusion, might I recommend the OSI update the web pages to either remove the statement regarding "with this clause present, it is called the Artistic License (Perl) 1.0" and, possible also remove Artistic-Perl-1.0 page or update it so that it matches the actual Perl text or alter the page to be the OSI's variation of Artistic License 1.0 w/clause 8

Let me know if I can help at all with any of this.

Cheers,


Jilayne Lovejoy
SPDX Legal Team lead
lovejoylids at gmail.com



On Jul 8, 2013, at 9:26 PM, Luis Villa <luis at tieguy.org> wrote:

> Hi, Jilayne, some comments in-line:
> 
> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 8:53 AM, Jilayne Lovejoy
> <jilayne.lovejoy at openlogic.com> wrote:
>> Do you (OSI) have any thought on the proposed options below?  I suppose I
>> should have made #3 the option of simply adding all three variations.
> 
>>>> Currently, the SPDX License List includes only the Artistic License 1.0
>>>> (Artistic-1.0) (see: http://spdx.org/licenses/Artistic-1.0) which is
>>>> the OSI
>>>> version (with no clause 8).
>>>> 
>>>> In a previous thread, the last comment on this issue by OSI was to ask
>>>> whether the OSI variation occurs "in the wild."  If not, then it was
>>>> suggested to change the OSI site to match the Perl site text.
>>>> 
>>>> (my two cents on this is that it may be hard to say what has been found
>>>> "in
>>>> the wild," as it would be easy to conflate "Artistic LIcense 1.0"
>>>> without
>>>> realizing the OSI and Perl sites display distinct variations.  The only
>>>> way
>>>> to determine the difference would require a much closer look.  I would
>>>> hazard to guess that these variations have been confused for each other
>>>> "in
>>>> the wild."  But I can't back that up in one direction or another at
> this
>>>> time.)
> 
> I've been unable to find resources that would identify this, or at
> least not without much work that I'm unable to give this at this time.
> 
>>>> Some insight from a license-savyy person associated with Perl who could
>>>> help?
>>>> 
>>>> Proposed solutions:
>>>> 
>>>> #1
>>>> SPDX LIcense List adds two new licenses, as follows:
>>>> - Artistic License 1.0 w/clause 8  |  Artistic-1.0-cl8
>>>> - Artistic License 1.0 (Perl)  |  Artistic-1.0-Perl
>>>> 
>>>> OSI can then choose(now, later, whenever) to update or change their
>>>> listing
>>>> (or not) as it so desires and just update the SPDX short-name
> identifier
>>>> accordingly; keeping everything in order, in terms of naming and
>>>> references.
> 
> This is obviously the easiest one for us :) Short of any suggestions
> from the Perl community, historical background, or hard data from
> someone, I'm inclined to follow this path - I simply don't know yet of
> any other way to make a choice between them.
> 
> Luis
> 
> 

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