[License-discuss] System 76's BeanBooks Public License v1.0

Ken Arromdee arromdee at rahul.net
Wed Sep 18 20:08:29 UTC 2013

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013, John Cowan wrote:
>> Sec. 4.3 strikes me as actually conceptually somewhat interesting,
>> inasmuch as many commercial lawyers have argued that this type of
>> clause is often implicit in software that contains a protect trademark
>> embedded in the software and not removed by a downstream licensee.
> In this case, however, Section 4.2 prevents you from removing the
> protected trademark.  Taking the two clauses together, you are effectively
> prevented from making commercial use of the software without paying for
> the trademark license, which obviously contravenes clauses 6 and 7 of
> the OSD.  So this license is on its face not Open Source.

It says:
>         4.3 - Commercial distribution of the Software requires a
>         trademark license agreement and you may be required to
>         pay. Using the Software within a corporation or entity is not
>         considered commercial distribution. This license does not grant
>         You rights to use any party's name, logo, or trademarks, except
>         solely as necessary to comply with Section 4.2.

Wouldn't the "except solely as necessary to comply with section 4.2" clause
make it okay?  Section 4.2 prevents you from removing the protected
trademark, and section 4.3 allows you to use the trademark under those

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