Scope of copyright on derivative works

Smith, McCoy mccoy.smith at intel.com
Fri Sep 28 21:04:43 UTC 2007


BSD license text is on the OSI website.
http://www.opensource.org/licenses/bsd-license.php

Perhaps you can point out where in that text is the "requirement that
the permission grant" be included.

 

________________________________

From: Chris Travers [mailto:chris.travers at gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 1:57 PM
To: License Discuss
Subject: Re: Scope of copyright on derivative works

 

 

On 9/28/07, Smith, McCoy <mccoy.smith at intel.com> wrote:

"Preexisting elements of 'its expressive whole'
remain under the BSD license."

Perhaps it would help those you want to convince if you could point out
where in the BSD license that is stated or implied. 


I have argued this in the past.  Since you haven't responded to that
post, I will repeat here.  Basically:

1)  Most BSD-licenses I have seen actually used require the *permission
grant* be included and therefore directed at all downstream recipients.
See below for an example from PostgreSQL. 

2)  Non-exclusive licenses are indivisible and don't provide an implied
sublicensing grant.  Since the BSD license doesn't mention sublicensing,
and since sublicensing is not required to exercise any other rights
granted in the license, it is not allowed.  End of story. 

The BSD license from PostgreSQL is as follows:

PostgreSQL Database Management System
(formerly known as Postgres, then as Postgres95)

Portions Copyright (c) 1996-2005, PostgreSQL Global Development Group 

Portions Copyright (c) 1994, The Regents of the University of California

Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software and its
documentation for any purpose, without fee, and without a written
agreement 
is hereby granted, provided that the above copyright notice and this
paragraph and the following two paragraphs appear in all copies.

IN NO EVENT SHALL THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA BE LIABLE TO ANY PARTY
FOR 
DIRECT, INDIRECT, SPECIAL, INCIDENTAL, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES,
INCLUDING
LOST PROFITS, ARISING OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE AND ITS
DOCUMENTATION, EVEN IF THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA HAS BEEN ADVISED OF
THE 
POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE.

THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA SPECIFICALLY DISCLAIMS ANY WARRANTIES,
INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY
AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  THE SOFTWARE PROVIDED HEREUNDER
IS 
ON AN "AS IS" BASIS, AND THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA HAS NO OBLIGATIONS
TO
PROVIDE MAINTENANCE, SUPPORT, UPDATES, ENHANCEMENTS, OR MODIFICATIONS.
---

Thus we see that the BSD license grants any downstream recipient
permission to use any copyrighted element released under that license in
any way which does not violate that license.  Sublicensing is not
explicitly mentioned, nor is it an implied right because it is not
required to exercise any other rights granted by the license.  There is
no other reasonable way to read this license. 

What the BSD license does not do is prevent you from enforcing your own
copyrights as you see fit.  Those could be released under the GPL v2 or
a proprietary license.  However, you cannot extend the GPL restrictions
to copyrighted elements you don't have a claim to.  This means that
BSD-licensed code is always under the BSD license *only* unless the
copyright author approves a license change, and thus seems to pose no
differences in GPL3 compatibility issues when compared to the MS-PL. 

 

IANAL, and you have said you are one, Mr. McCoy.  Perhaps you would like
to respond to these specific points.

Best Wishes,
Chris Travers

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