For Approval: Open-Realty License

[Rod Dixon, J.D., LL.M.]

Regarding your second question: I do not think charging for the privilege of 
removing the otherwise obligatory html comment would create an OSI license 
approval issue. That should be fine as far as the OSD  provides.

I think you are proposing an open  source license with a "soft" copyleft 
provision that contains an  original licensor attribution requirement. IF 
so, this would comply with the OSD.  For clarity, you should re-post a draft 
of your license that is consistent with what is on your website.

Rod
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ryan Bonham" <ryan at transparent-tech.com>
To: <license-discuss at opensource.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 11:58 PM
Subject: Re: For Approval: Open-Realty License


> Rod,
>
> My apologies for admitting that in my approval request, been working to 
> many hours.. I can change that to read. "If you use Open-Realty in an 
> application you redistribute, the complete source code for your 
> application must be available and freely redistributable under an approved 
> OSI license." or if you have a suggestion on how to word that I am all 
> ears, the basic goal was to make sure that any applications built using 
> our source are then released under and open-source license and that the 
> include the html comments..
>
> I also have a question, if we dual license the application with one 
> license allowing removal of the html comment and charge for this license 
> but still require that the code remain open-source etc, will this effect 
> OSI approval of the license?
>
> Thanks
>
> Ryan Bonham
> Transparent Technologies
> ryan at transparent-tech.com
>
> Phone: (888) 418-8900
> Help Desk: http://www.transparent-tech.com/esupport/
>
>
>
> Rod Dixon, J.D., LL.M. wrote:
>
>> I have one question.   On your website at: 
>> http://www.open-realty.org/license_info.html you state that your license:
>>
>> "...permits you to use the software at no charge under two conditions.
>>
>> 1.You have to leave the html comment that reads "<!--Open-Realty is 
>> distributed by Transparent Technologies and is Licensed under the 
>> Open-Realty License. See http://www.open-realty.org/oslicense.html for 
>> more information.-->”" intact.
>>
>> 2. If you use Open-Realty in an application you redistribute, the 
>> complete source code for your application must be available and freely 
>> redistributable under reasonable conditions."
>>
>> The second condition is not only vague, but it does not actually appear 
>> in the license you posted. Is this an additional requirement? What does 
>> "reasonable conditions" mean?
>>
>> -Rod Dixon
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ryan Bonham" 
>> <ryan at transparent-tech.com>
>> To: <license-discuss at opensource.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 6:56 PM
>> Subject: For Approval: Open-Realty License
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I would like to submit our open source projects license for approval. 
>>> The Open-Realty license is similar to the new BSD license. It 
>>> additionally requires that web pages built using our open source project 
>>> leave the following html comment "<!--Open-Realty is distributed by 
>>> Transparent Technologies and is Licensed under the Open-Realty License. 
>>> See http://www.open-realty.org/oslicense.html for more information.-->". 
>>> Our software can be used in conjunction with other open source products, 
>>> as long as the html comment mentioned previously is present on all pages 
>>> that use our projects source code.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------- Start Open-Relaty License -------------
>>>
>>> Copyright (c) 2003-2005
>>> Transparent Technologies. All rights reserved.
>>>
>>> Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without 
>>> modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions are 
>>> met:
>>>
>>> 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright 
>>> notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer.
>>> 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright 
>>> notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the 
>>> documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution.
>>> 3. Neither the name of the Transparent Technologies nor the names of its 
>>> contributors may be used to endorse or promote products derived from 
>>> this software without specific prior written permission.
>>> 4. All websites using Open-Realty must leave the html comment that reads 
>>> “<!--Open-Realty is distributed by Transparent Technologies and is 
>>> licensed under the Open-Realty License. See 
>>> http://www.open-realty.org/oslicense.html for more information.-->” 
>>> intact.
>>>
>>> THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY TRANSPARENT TECHNOLOGIES AND ITS 
>>> CONTRIBUTORS ``AS IS'' AND ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, 
>>> BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND 
>>> FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL 
>>> TRANSPARENT TECHNOLOGIES OR ITS CONTRIBUTORS BE LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, 
>>> INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES 
>>> (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS OR 
>>> SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) 
>>> HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, 
>>> STRICT LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN 
>>> ANY WAY OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE 
>>> POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------- End Open-Relaty License -------------
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Ryan Bonham
>>> Transparent Technologies
>>> ryan at transparent-tech.com
>>>
>>>
>>
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