For Approval: ACE License
Rod Dixon, J.D., LL.M.
roddixon at cyberspaces.org
Mon Feb 28 18:02:34 UTC 2005
If this license cannot be revised, I recommend that OSI withhold approval.
With a minor revision, I world agree that approval is warranted. The second
paragraph should be revised. As it stands, I see a number of concerns under
OSD Article#1,2, and 3 since the license appears to permit that the entire
project may be taken proprietary by any licensee. I doubt that this is the
intent. IF such latitude is intended, then the licensee world not comply
with the OSD. Under the BSD, this is a privilege reserved by the original
copyright holder.
There is a significant difference between permitting licensees to
distribute modifications or enhancements to original code under a
proprietary license, which the BSD permits, and permitting licensees to
distribute the original code as a binary under a proprietary license, which
the ACE license appears to permit.You probably mean to follow the BSD, but
it is not clear. Perhaps, one point of confusion may be clarified by
replacing " proprietary" with binary.
Rod Dixon
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Sedgwick" <ken at bonsai.com>
To: <license-discuss at opensource.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 8:36 PM
Subject: For Approval: ACE License
> Greetings,
>
> My name is Ken Sedgwick. I am a volunteer package maintainer working
> to get the ACE and TAO software libraries into standard Linux
> distribution. I am not a lawyer.
>
> The Fedora Extras (Linux Distribution) team has requested that newly
> submitted packages have OSI approved software licenses. The ACE folks
> were agreeable to my submission of the ACE License for OSI
> certification.
>
> The plain text copy of the license is attached to this message.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> Most Similar License
>
> The ACE License is most similar to the "New BSD License". It has been
> in force for many years and over 1000 developers have contributed to
> the library under this license. I don't think changing the license is
> practical at this point.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> Use in Conjunction with Other Licenses
>
> The ACE License does not appear to be incompatible with other open
> source licenses.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Many thanks in advance.
>
> Ken
>
> --
> Ken Sedgwick
> Bonsai Software, Inc.
> (510) 610-4162
> ken+5a4 at bonsai.com
>
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> 1. http://www.cs.wustl.edu/~schmidt/ACE.html
> 2. http://www.cs.wustl.edu/~schmidt/TAO.html
> 3. http://www.dre.vanderbilt.edu/CIAO/
> 4. http://www.dre.vanderbilt.edu/cosmic/
> 5. http://www.dre.vanderbilt.edu/~schmidt/
> 6. http://www.cs.wustl.edu/~schmidt/ACE-members.html
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> 11. mailto:doc_group at cs.wustl.edu
> 12. http://www.cs.wustl.edu/~schmidt/ACE-users.html
> 13. http://www.cs.wustl.edu/~schmidt/commercial-support.html
> 14. http://www.cs.wustl.edu/~schmidt/ACE.html
> 15. http://www.cs.wustl.edu/~schmidt/TAO.html
> 16. http://www.dre.vanderbilt.edu/CIAO/
> 17. http://www.dre.vanderbilt.edu/cosmic/
> 18. http://www.dre.vanderbilt.edu/
> 19. http://www.isis.vanderbilt.edu/
> 20. http://www.cs.wustl.edu/~schmidt/doc-center.html
> 21. http://www.opensource.org/
> 22. mailto:d.schmidt at vanderbilt.edu
> 23. http://www.dre.vanderbilt.edu/~schmidt/
> 24. http://www.cs.wustl.edu/ACE.html
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