Is this better for tomsrtbt?

Karsten M. Self kmself at
Sun Apr 22 22:07:38 UTC 2001

on Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 02:37:24PM -0400, Tom Oehser (tom at wrote:
> > What is it you want to protect?
> I'll give you an example.
> My bootdisk currently includes a that I have down to only
> 416,361 bytes.  

Covered by the GNU GPL, no?  Section 1:

    1. You may copy and distribute verbatim copies of the Program's
       source code as you receive it, in any medium, *provided that you
       conspicuously and appropriately publish on each copy an
       appropriate copyright notice* and disclaimer of warranty; keep
       intact all the notices that refer to this License and to the
       absence of any warranty; and give any other recipients of the
       Program a copy of this License along with the Program.

Did you add your own copyright notice to these programs?  I'm digging
around for copyright notices, they're a bit scarce....  You ought to be
covered under GPL in this case.

> More than 2 years ago, back in October of 1998, I had it only down to
> 432,684 bytes.  I havn't distributed that binary for about 2
> years.  Now, guess what file is currently in use on
> the MuLinux distribution?  Yep, the 432,684 byte one I created about 2
> years ago.  Now, the author of MuLinux does *not* mention that he used
> a bunch (more than just this) of stuff directly out of tomsrtbt, he
> did *not* ever contact me about how to build it that small, and I
> would be curious in the abstract to know what he would do if someone
> asked him for the source code sufficient to rebuild it.  

Incidentally, where's TRBs sources?

...and have you mentioned this to the MuLinux author?   A lot of license
enforcement starts out with "say, I noticed" type letters.

> I want to prevent people from taking the binary objects and copying
> them into their own mini distributions without mentioning where they
> got them.

If you're modifying works based under the GPL and BSD licenses, the
existing licenses give you this right.  I think you're asking for what
you already have.


Karsten M. Self <kmself at>
 What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand?       There is no K5 cabal
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