<html><body><span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#000; font-size:10pt;"><div>Juan,</div><div><br></div><div>I never heard of anything - certainly the EAC and the VVSG is silent on this - otherwise it would be a very big deal.</div><div><br></div><div>So I suspect the answer is "Nothing happens" - except perhaps someone says "ooops" and looks over their shoulder. But then again - there is no video to give you who what where and when.</div><div><br></div><div>Moving on. </div><div><br></div><div>As I noted the fundamental problem lays elsewhere - that the machines are not annealed and able to detect and report and mitigate unauthorized changes to the software. </div><div><br></div><div>That little sticky label just serves to distract you from the real issues. Pay no attention to the man behind the green curtain.</div><div><br></div><div>David</div><div><br></div>
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Subject: Re: [CAVO] Wisconsin officials find 5 tampered machines<br>
From: "Juan E. Gilbert" <<a href="mailto:juan@ufl.edu">juan@ufl.edu</a>><br>
Date: Sat, December 03, 2016 7:37 pm<br>
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David, that sounds possible, but I don't know for certain that's the case. The better question is what happens when the seal is broken? Is there a documented protocol in any State for this scenario? If anyone knows of any documented protocol in this case, please let me know.<br> <br> <br> <br> Thanks,<br> <br> <br> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/3/16 5:22 PM, David RR Webber (XML) wrote:<br> </div> <blockquote cite="mid:20161203152211.dc066b1d4d2e0a1a65719ae85a8071e6.14aca05500.wbe@email03.godaddy.com" type="cite"> <span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#000; font-size:10pt;"> <div>That label looks like the same warranty sticker as on your microwave or washing machine. What is the ES&S warranty worth anyway? Nothing probably.</div> <div><br> </div> <div>Highlights the need for digital watermarking - aka digital verification of the contents - OS and applications. Don't hold you breathe on being able to check that since there is no requirement for that built in to these systems. E.g. you want a supervisor level service at the OS level - to be able to verify that programs executing are the correct ones.</div> <div> </div> <div>I suspect what this shows is that someone opened the box to replace a faulty part - mechanical repair - and they do not have those natty little stickers to put back on again. The most obvious is when the power supply fails - and you put in a new one. These machines are aging now - and that is one of the first parts to fail. Then you have plugs and connectors that fails.</div> <div><br> </div> <div>David</div> <blockquote id="replyBlockquote" webmail="1" style="border-left: 2px solid blue; margin-left: 8px; padding-left: 8px; font-size:10pt; color:black; font-family:verdana;"> <div id="wmQuoteWrapper">-------- Original Message --------<br> Subject: [CAVO] Wisconsin officials find 5 tampered machines<br> From: "Gilbert,Juan E" <<a target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:juan@ufl.edu">juan@ufl.edu</a>><br> Date: Sat, December 03, 2016 11:22 am<br> To: CAVO <<a target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:cavo@opensource.org">cavo@opensource.org</a>><br> <br> <div>This is early, but just a heads up. </div> <div id="AppleMailSignature"><br> </div> <div id="AppleMailSignature"><a moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank" href="http://occupydemocrats.com/2016/12/03/wisconsin-recount-officials-just-found-five-counting-machines-tampered-seals/">http://occupydemocrats.com/2016/12/03/wisconsin-recount-officials-just-found-five-counting-machines-tampered-seals/</a><br> <br> <div>---</div> <div>Sent from my iPhone</div> </div> <hr> _______________________________________________<br> CAVO mailing list<br> <a target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:CAVO@opensource.org">CAVO@opensource.org</a><br> <a target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://lists.opensource.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cavo">https://lists.opensource.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cavo</a><br> </div> </blockquote> </span> </blockquote> <br> <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">--
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