<html><body><span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#000; font-size:10pt;"><div>Brent,</div><div><br></div><div>These days our personae are background checked routinely every day by NSA and others.</div><div><br></div><div>However the only thing that I see in the below from Larry is the overloaded use of the word "free" as in "giving away software" and "always free". And then qualified by - usually "free of cost".</div><div><br></div><div>This unfortunately sends the wrong messages completely. Firstly I would argue there really is nothing that is "free". There are implicit costs in everything. Second people infer that "free" means they can do whatever they please, which of course is not how the GPL3 license works, it is not "giving away software". And of course then people infer that if something is being given away, that it is in someway inferior or flawed, or there is a hidden catch.</div><div><br></div><div>It is much clearer to say "there are no licensing costs". That's not as short or catchy as the word "free", but it does explain what is going on.</div><div><br></div><div>Making the barriers to adoption and use much lower is really the big picture, and then creating a community of use and contributors to the success of a software project.</div><div><br></div><div>The problem of course is that there is POSS - Paid Open Source Software, so Free does differentiate there.</div><div><br></div><div>Particularly for elections solutions, we need to articulate the need to develop a library of quality software assets that are common and available to election jurisdictions, and to do that collaboratively so that each State and Jurisdiction is not reinventing the wheel and paying again and again for the exact same thing.</div><div><br></div><div>David</div><div><br></div>
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Subject: Re: [CAVO] Open source election software<br>
From: Brent Turner <<a href="mailto:turnerbrentm@gmail.com">turnerbrentm@gmail.com</a>><br>
Date: Wed, September 28, 2016 2:27 pm<br>
To: "<a href="mailto:lrosen@rosenlaw.com">lrosen@rosenlaw.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:lrosen@rosenlaw.com">lrosen@rosenlaw.com</a>>, CAVO<br>
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Per OSI. Those creating redundant license should be background checked for motivation that could create future issue. Do you agree ? <span></span><br><br>On Wednesday, September 28, 2016, Lawrence Rosen <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:lrosen@rosenlaw.com">lrosen@rosenlaw.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:black">"<b>Why CAVO Recommends GPLv3</b>" by Lawrence Rosen (revised 9/28/2016)<u></u><u></u></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:black">There are many ways to distribute software. Valuable software nowadays is usually distributed under a free and open source license ("FOSS" license, in short), both because it is usually "free of cost" software but also "free of restrictions" on copying, making changes, and redistributing that software.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:black">There are various open source licenses to choose from. They are listed at the <a href="http://www.opensource.org" target="_blank">www.opensource.org</a> website. Unless a license is listed at that website, most developers and potential customers won't call it FOSS software. <u></u><u></u></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:black">FOSS licenses offer several distinct ways to give software away. <u></u><u></u></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:black">Choosing among those licenses for software is not an arbitrary game of darts. For open source election software that can be trusted and always free, the choice of license is particularly important. That is why CAVO recommends the General Public License version 3.0 ("GPLv3") as the best license to use. This article gives several important reasons why.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div><u></u><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Among the many FOSS licenses, GPLv3 is the <b><i>most modern, widely accepted, and best understood license</i></b> available today. Its predecessor license, GPLv2, is historically far and away the most used worldwide; GPLv3 is replacing it in the rate of license adoption for new FOSS software.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div><u></u><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">GPLv3 is a <b><i>reciprocal</i></b> license. Once a project or distributor releases election software under the GPLv3, it will remain FOSS software <b><i>in perpetuity</i></b> under the GPLv3 license. Modifications to that FOSS software will also be distributed <b><i>in perpetuity</i></b> under the GPLv3. This guarantees that our election software won't ever be taken under commercial covers and turned into proprietary software with unacceptable lock-in and source code restrictions that make voting untrustworthy.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div><u></u><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">The GPLv3 license promotes <b><i>open and shared development efforts</i></b>. While it is possible to create excellent open source software under more permissive FOSS licenses, those licenses allow commercial fragmentation of the software. That isn't appropriate for widely used election software. <u></u><u></u></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div><u></u><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">The GPLv3 encourages <b><i>trustworthy software</i></b>. There is a law of software development named in honor of Linus Torvalds stating that "given enough eyeballs, all <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_bug" title="Software bug" target="_blank"><span style="color:black;text-decoration:none">bugs</span></a> are shallow"; or more formally: "Given a large enough <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_test" title="Beta test" target="_blank"><span style="color:black;text-decoration:none">beta-tester</span></a> and co-<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programmer" title="Programmer" target="_blank"><span style="color:black;text-decoration:none">developer</span></a> base, almost every problem will be characterized quickly and the fix will be obvious to someone." GPLv3 software projects invite eyeballs on all distributed versions of the software to identify bugs and security issues; other licenses don't always do that.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div><u></u><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Although GPLv3 will specifically encourage FOSS development practices for the election code base and its derivative works, that GPLv3 license is nevertheless <b><i>compatible with successful commercial software and support business</i></b> as well. One need only refer to the robust Linux ecosystem and its contribution to diverse commercial technology worldwide, whose basic software is entirely under the GPLv2 and GPLv3 licenses. The GPL licenses made that possible.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div><u></u><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">GPLv3 will encourage <b><i>innovation</i></b> because GPLv3 source code is open to view and change. <u></u><u></u></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:black">For these reasons, CAVO recommends that election software be distributed under GPLv3. This will inevitably create a diverse, worldwide, and enthusiastic community of software developers to create election systems we can all trust.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:black">Since this article was first published (11/8/2014), the enthusiasm for open source election software has grown around the world. Projects now exist or are proposed whose software will be distributed under a wide variety of open source licenses. I have therefore added the following paragraph to encourage that enthusiasm.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:black">I believe that creating free and open source election software, mostly under GPLv3, will help reassure voters everywhere that their votes will be efficiently collected and recorded fairly. But this does not mean that all election software must be created initially under GPLv3. There is a large project community we can build around many open source licenses that are compatible with GPLv3 for election system software. For example, the OSET OPL, the MPL, and the Apache License, and many others, are compatible with GPLv3. Such software can trivially be aggregated with GPLv3 software for use everywhere.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">/Larry<u></u><u></u></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:black">Lawrence Rosen<u></u><u></u></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:black">Rosenlaw (</span><span style="color:black"><a href="http://www.rosenlaw.com/" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:8.0pt">www.rosenlaw.com</span></a></span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:black">) <u></u><u></u></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:black">3001 King Ranch Rd., Ukiah, CA 95482<u></u><u></u></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:black">Cell: 707-478-8932 <u></u><u></u></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:black">This email is licensed under </span><span style="color:black"><a href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:8.0pt">CC-BY-4.0</span></a></span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:black">. 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